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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:10 AM

Since upgrading to EMC 10 I have not been able to reliably burn DVD's. This version takes a very long time to encode and such so it is only after 2-3 hours that you get the message, "Failed to start the image writing operation Error while Burning Image. 800004003 Error while Aborting".

Steps taken as suggested by the Roxio knowledge base and their own tech support:

1.) Defrag your disk. Perhaps because it need a lot of contiguous space? But the error is only after 100% of the work is done and it wants to burn the DVD. I did find out that TiVo files get very fragmented and they cannot be defraged. The only way is to copy them to another storage device, defrag, then copy them back. That appeared to work once.

2.) Delete temp files. Claim is that you might be out of temp space. I've never heard of a way to limit the size of temp space on Windows, but still I did. Start, Run, "%temp%" and then delete all that you can there.

3.) Go to Tools/Options and check that MyDVD is using software rendering, not hardware. I did that, but it keeps switching back mysteriously.

4.) Check your video drivers for updates. Go to Start/Run "dxdiag". You should see that your DirectX version is 9.0.c and check on the Display tab. If its not a pretty new one, go to the manufacture's web site and get a new one.

My opinion:

1.) The rendering and encoding and all that dealt with above are running fine.
2.) It was one of those stupid Windows update that broke this.
3.) Its really the DVD burner.

The burner is a _NEC DVG+RW ND-3450A using the MS drivers of 7/1/2001. I see others on this forum say they are having problems with this same burner and they have updated the firm ware. So far I have not found any "official" site offering updates for this burner. It make a bit nervous try just anything.


Anyone have any fresh ideas?
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:17 AM

NEC has since 2005 combined with Sony and info on drives are under the 'Optiarc' name. Info on drivers, firmware are at

http://www.sonynec-optiarc.eu/en/support-s...-nd-series.html

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:43 AM

QUOTE (dvg @ Jul 10 2008, 07:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The burner is a _NEC DVG+RW ND-3450A using the MS drivers of 7/1/2001. I see others on this forum say they are having problems with this same burner and they have updated the firm ware. So far I have not found any "official" site offering updates for this burner. It make a bit nervous try just anything.



Makes me wonder if I should just buy a new burner. I see Tiger Direct has Sony's for $30. Anyone have recommendations?
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:49 AM

Did the drive come with the PC? If so what brand and model # of PC?

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1.Click here Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 08:40 AM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ Jul 10 2008, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did the drive come with the PC? If so what brand and model # of PC?

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Its a Dell Dimension 8400, which I used to think of as "new'. dry.gif
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 08:50 AM

so are you able to make a disc image successfully? maybe it's not really a "burning" issue
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 08:52 AM

QUOTE (dvg @ Jul 10 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its a Dell Dimension 8400, which I used to think of as "new'. dry.gif


Then go to Dell and enter your service tag and look for a firmware update, you have a OEM NEC Drive.

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1.Click here Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB) CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)
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14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:04 AM

QUOTE (gaper1 @ Jul 10 2008, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so are you able to make a disc image successfully? maybe it's not really a "burning" issue



Good point. I am testing that now. I did make what I guess is an image (second option) yesterday, but I'm not sure what to do with it. Right now I am making a "folder' set. Can either or both of these just be burned on to the DVD and then played?
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (dvg @ Jul 10 2008, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good point. I am testing that now. I did make what I guess is an image (second option) yesterday, but I'm not sure what to do with it. Right now I am making a "folder' set. Can either or both of these just be burned on to the DVD and then played?


It created a Folder set just fine, as it did the image. How can I burn those to a disk and have them play?
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:51 AM

If the image is a C2D or ISO - just put in a blank disc and double click on the file - it should do it automatically from there
If it ain't broke, fiddle with it until it breaks, then fiddle with it until you get it fixed

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 05:46 AM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Jul 10 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the image is a C2D or ISO - just put in a blank disc and double click on the file - it should do it automatically from there


It does produce an .iso file but double clicking does not help on my computer. I right clicked and chose Burn with Creator and it did.

So all this work up to this point, defragging, cleaning up temp,new drivers, switching to software rendering, latest code on the burner have done nothing to resolve the problem. MyDVD has been creating the images all along, just fine, and the DVD burner works just fine, like it always used to, but MyDVD cannot get from Prepare to Burn. This is a pain, burning DVD's of TiVo shows used to be easy and painless. Now it is a half day, multi step process.

I did uninstall Sonic before installing Roxio, but I wonder if there are some old hooks in the code looking in all the wrong places and that is why it can't get to the burner? Anyone have any ideas.

I have found that MyDVD takes several hours to burn three half hour segments. And it is taking 75-85% cpu the whole time so the computer is useless (dual processor, too.) Then you have to come back an burn the image to the DVD. Used to be I would come back and it was DONE!

QUOTE (cdanteek @ Jul 10 2008, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then go to Dell and enter your service tag and look for a firmware update, you have a OEM NEC Drive.

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Thanks, cd. I did find a newer one there, and flashed it. But still Creator won't burn it after creating it. Of course you can only test that once every three hours. sad.gif
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:13 AM

QUOTE (dvg @ Jul 11 2008, 07:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It does produce an .iso file but double clicking does not help on my computer. I right clicked and chose Burn with Creator and it did.

So all this work up to this point, defragging, cleaning up temp,new drivers, switching to software rendering, latest code on the burner have done nothing to resolve the problem. MyDVD has been creating the images all along, just fine, and the DVD burner works just fine, like it always used to, but MyDVD cannot get from Prepare to Burn. This is a pain, burning DVD's of TiVo shows used to be easy and painless. Now it is a half day, multi step process.

I did uninstall Sonic before installing Roxio, but I wonder if there are some old hooks in the code looking in all the wrong places and that is why it can't get to the burner? Anyone have any ideas.

I have found that MyDVD takes several hours to burn three half hour segments. And it is taking 75-85% cpu the whole time so the computer is useless (dual processor, too.) Then you have to come back an burn the image to the DVD. Used to be I would come back and it was DONE!




Thanks, cd. I did find a newer one there, and flashed it. But still Creator won't burn it after creating it. Of course you can only test that once every three hours. sad.gif


Q, does the disc play and play OK?

Your old way temped a image to the HD then burned to disc. The difference is now you load the image and burn. The difference in time is you walking to the pc and doing the burn step, not much! I never do a direct burn, and always save to a image file or DVD Video Folder set.

For a clean uninstall try # 10 or 11 in my signature, for your EMC Version and OS..

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This post has been edited by cdanteek: 11 July 2008 - 07:47 AM

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1.Click here Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB) CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)
13.Click here Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5, 8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <> Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
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