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#1 Load Polonius

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 09:23 PM

So trying to copy a movie to a DVD+R DL disc.  VC&C recognizes the disc as an 8.0GB DVD+R, not an 8.0 GB DVD+R DL.  On the video compilation page I made sure to select DVD+R Double Layer at the bottom.  When I do that and then try to burn, I get red lettering that says "Blank DVD+R, Free Space:  8.0GB (Insert Disc)."  I have EMC 10 on my laptop and it has no problems burning DL discs.  Also updated EMC 10 to version 1.1.  Any suggestions?

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 04:51 AM

It's not the software…

Have you ever been able to burn DL with that drive?

The software will only report what the Burner is telling it. If the software says it is a '+R' disc in the Burner, it is because that is what your Burner told it!

I would look to ASUS and see what they suggest.

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 05:19 AM

QUOTE (Load Polonius @ Sep 21 2008, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So trying to copy a movie to a DVD+R DL disc.  VC&C recognizes the disc as an 8.0GB DVD+R, not an 8.0 GB DVD+R DL.  On the video compilation page I made sure to select DVD+R Double Layer at the bottom.  When I do that and then try to burn, I get red lettering that says "Blank DVD+R, Free Space:  8.0GB (Insert Disc)."  I have EMC 10 on my laptop and it has no problems burning DL discs.  Also updated EMC 10 to version 1.1.  Any suggestions?

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I have the same burner that you have, and so far, I haven't been able to get any version of Video Copy and Convert to burn to a DL disc.  I use Imgburn to burn my DL discs and Video Copy and Convert to burn to my standard DVDs.

I never got Video Copy and Convert to burn to a DL disc, with my BenQ 1650 or 1655, either.

In short, it isn't your drive that is the problem.
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 07:17 AM

Yep, used other software to burn, such as final burn free, and it all recognizes the correct DVD type in the drive.  only VC&C thinks its a std 8.0 GB DVD not DL



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Posted 21 September 2008 - 08:37 AM

Actually a 'standard 8 GB DVD' IS a DL one

standard DVDs are 4.3 GB
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Sep 21 2008, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually a 'standard 8 GB DVD' IS a DL one

standard DVDs are 4.3 GB


Copy all.  Still can't get full use from VC&C for a DL disc.  Any suggestions from anybody?

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:03 AM

It all depends on the actual size of the file set/image

Disc makers have always refusred to use the 'standard' measurement of capacity - they measure a KB as 1,000 bytes, a MB as 1,000 KB and so on, where conmputers (and Windows) measure a KB as 1024 Bytes, MB as 1024 KB, etc

When you get to the 8 GB mark, there's a very big difference between the two measurements
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 08:25 PM

We may be running after a red herring here. I don't think the drive is recognizing your DL disc as something non-standard. I think it's just not recognizing that you have the disc inserted.

When it displays (insert disc) the software is telling you that you haven't got a blank disc in the drive, and it wants a DVD+R with 8.0 GB of free space. Don't get hung up on the wording of the prompt, it wants a DVD+R DL, and it can't see one.

The size of your project shouldn't concern VC&C, because it will transcode to fit, won't it?

If you have a blank DVD+R DL disc in there when it says that, then the software is preventing the drive from recognizing the disc.
If you can burn DL discs with other software, then the drive is fine.
You seem to be in the same position as GrandPaBruce, who has never got any version of VC&C to burn a DL disc on any of three different drives. I think a pattern may be emerging here, don't you?

Has anyone reading this managed to get VC&C to burn to a DL disc, please?

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 06:18 AM

QUOTE (Brendon @ Sep 22 2008, 05:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We may be running after a red herring here. I don't think the drive is recognizing your DL disc as something non-standard. I think it's just not recognizing that you have the disc inserted.

When it displays (insert disc) the software is telling you that you haven't got a blank disc in the drive, and it wants a DVD+R with 8.0 GB of free space. Don't get hung up on the wording of the prompt, it wants a DVD+R DL, and it can't see one.

The size of your project shouldn't concern VC&C, because it will transcode to fit, won't it?

If you have a blank DVD+R DL disc in there when it says that, then the software is preventing the drive from recognizing the disc.
If you can burn DL discs with other software, then the drive is fine.
You seem to be in the same position as GrandPaBruce, who has never got any version of VC&C to burn a DL disc on any of three different drives. I think a pattern may be emerging here, don't you?

Has anyone reading this managed to get VC&C to burn to a DL disc, please?

Brendon





Hi Brendon,

Re your question, I have successfully used VC&C to burn a DL disc, using Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x from an ISO file the videos are approx
80- 90 mins. My burner is an ATAPI DVD A DH16A3L.

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Edited by grandpabruce, 22 September 2008 - 09:15 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:00 AM

QUOTE (Brendon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We may be running after a red herring here. I don't think the drive is recognizing your DL disc as something non-standard. I think it's just not recognizing that you have the disc inserted.

When it displays (insert disc) the software is telling you that you haven't got a blank disc in the drive, and it wants a DVD+R with 8.0 GB of free space. Don't get hung up on the wording of the prompt, it wants a DVD+R DL, and it can't see one.

The size of your project shouldn't concern VC&C, because it will transcode to fit, won't it?

If you have a blank DVD+R DL disc in there when it says that, then the software is preventing the drive from recognizing the disc.
If you can burn DL discs with other software, then the drive is fine.
You seem to be in the same position as GrandPaBruce, who has never got any version of VC&C to burn a DL disc on any of three different drives. I think a pattern may be emerging here, don't you?

Has anyone reading this managed to get VC&C to burn to a DL disc, please?

Brendon


Hello,
I have the same problem with my EMC 10. It can not recognize DVD+R DL, in the main window, so it keeps asking for another disk in the drive, when I give the command for a burning task, even if there is a blank one in there. Most interesting, when I use the disc tool to investigate the type of media used it tells me corectly that I have a double layer DVD inside the drive! angry.gif Still, in the same time, the main window of the EMC shows just DVD+R 8 GB!
In the end, I burned the double layer with Nero. The disc is also recognized as double layer by other sofware like CDburnXP, for example. In exchange, other software like Alcohol120% tells me like EMC : DVD+R 8GB. The operating system tells me the disc is DVD+R but the free space is reported to be only 7.42 from 7.95GB... It is totally confusing. Can anyone help with this problem? I like the burning engine from EMC, I have been using it for years. I suspect it is all about a sofware conflict with other programs.
I would appreciate any helpful information!


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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:45 AM

QUOTE (Mastercare @ Sep 22 2008, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Brendon,

Re your question, I have successfully used VC&C to burn a DL disc, using Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x from an ISO file the videos are approx
80- 90 mins. My burner is an ATAPI DVD A DH16A3L.


Thank you.

If you have done it then the software isn't preventing it all the time. I'm not sure that puts us closer to finding the solution, but it shows that the software can do it, so it must be something else - perhaps a conflict with something? - which prevents the recognition of the blank disc.

The usual cure for this is updating the burner's firmware, but there are no updates for GranPaBruce's BenQ drives, and it's unlikely that he's had a failure to recognize DL discs on three separate drives because of out-of-date firmware.

I'm a bit stumped, here.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:14 AM

QUOTE (Brendon @ Sep 23 2008, 07:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you.

If you have done it then the software isn't preventing it all the time. I'm not sure that puts us closer to finding the solution, but it shows that the software can do it, so it must be something else - perhaps a conflict with something? - which prevents the recognition of the blank disc.

The usual cure for this is updating the burner's firmware, but there are no updates for GranPaBruce's BenQ drives, and it's unlikely that he's had a failure to recognize DL discs on three separate drives because of out-of-date firmware.

I'm a bit stumped, here.

Brendon


I did a search through some of the DL discs that I have burned, and found one, that I burned using my BenQ 1650, using Disc Copier, from EMC 9.  It was burned, late December of last year.

I do remember trying to burn it, using the VC&C in EMC 10, and it didn't burn.  It did recognize the DL disc, and burned for a little bit, then quit.

I have now tried the same burn, with my Asus drive, in VC&C in Roxio Creator 2009, and it is a no go.  It spits the disc.

I am now trying it with the BenQ burner, and it is burning.  I'll edit this post, with the results, when it is done burning.  If it finishes, it will be the first one that I have been able to burn in VC&C.

EDIT:  VC&C burned the +R DL disc in my BenQ drive in Roxio Creator 2009.  No versions of VC&C will burn to my new Asus drive.

Edited by grandpabruce, 23 September 2008 - 06:22 AM.

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#13 Load Polonius

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 02:55 PM

This is such a weird problem.  VC&C Will recognize a DL disc in my laptop, but not my pc.  Laptop is running Windows Vista, but XP on the laptop.  think that might be an issue?

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 04:54 PM

QUOTE (Load Polonius @ Nov 2 2008, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is such a weird problem.  VC&C Will recognize a DL disc in my laptop, but not my pc.  Laptop is running Windows Vista, but XP on the laptop.  think that might be an issue?

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE (Brendon @ Nov 2 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pardon?



Sorry meant EMC 10 on the laptop with Vista = can read a DL disc as a DL disc, but EMC 10 on my PC with XP has the problems I have stated above in the original post.  Think its an issue with EMC compatibility with XP?

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 06:32 PM

QUOTE (Load Polonius @ Nov 2 2008, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry meant EMC 10 on the laptop with Vista = can read a DL disc as a DL disc, but EMC 10 on my PC with XP has the problems I have stated above in the original post.  Think its an issue with EMC compatibility with XP?

Look's like dan_ghe's Vista is having some problems, too (post 10).

Is the problem once the burn starts or is it evident before you click to start the process?

I have some dl discs, a Vista machine and 2 different disc drives.  Is there an experiment I should try w/o creating a dl coaster?

Edited by Syrallas, 02 November 2008 - 06:32 PM.

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (Load Polonius @ Nov 2 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry meant EMC 10 on the laptop with Vista = can read a DL disc as a DL disc, but EMC 10 on my PC with XP has the problems I have stated above in the original post.  Think its an issue with EMC compatibility with XP?


I have XP, and I have no issues with the software.  I do have an issue with the Asus drives we have.

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 07:27 PM

Hmmm. The OP in this old thread indicated success in burning to a DL using the same ASUS drive but no go when burning using multiple drives.

When I get the chance, I will check if my ASUS does not recognize the DL disc if I attempt to burn in multiple drives.

Edited by malatekid, 02 November 2008 - 07:29 PM.

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (malatekid @ Nov 2 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm. The OP in this old thread indicated success in burning to a DL using the same ASUS drive but no go when burning using multiple drives.

When I get the chance, I will check if my ASUS does not recognize the DL disc if I attempt to burn in multiple drives.


My Asus will not burn DL discs, using VC&C  with EMC 10 or Creator 2009.  There has not been an updated firmware since February of this year.

Jess, if you have the same burner as the OP and I do, try burning to it only, and see if it works for you.  I'd bet money, it won't.

Edited by grandpabruce, 02 November 2008 - 07:53 PM.

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 07:55 PM

I'll try it tonight when the PC with Creator 2009 frees up and report back the result.
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