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#1 Kim_PDX

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 06:33 AM

I have a Dell Inspiron 1420 with Roxio Creator Premier 10 installed by Dell.  It does not contain all the individual features that I had with my Easy Media Creator 10 Suite, but I didn't use many of those features anyway.  

Here is my question:

With Creator Premier 10, the only way you can access Videowave (or a Videowave-esque window) is through My DVD.  This gives you access to all the basic VideoWave features you would expect to see in the EMC 10 Suites, I have used this successfully to create movies with sound, transitions, etc., and I have been successful in outputting to a variety of formats.  

However when you save this file, the file format is .DMSD, which is a MyDVD file format.  

Creator Premier 10 MyDVD allows you to import movies into your production, including VideoWave .dmsm files.  However Creator Premier 10 MyDVD does not allow you to import other MyDVD .dmsd files.  This seems odd, because I cannot find a way to create a .DMSM file with Creator Premier 10 MyDVD while using the VideoWave-esque window.  

Has anyone found a work-around to create .DMSM files with Creator Premier 10 MyDVD?  If you change the extension on a .DMSD file to .DMSM, it will launch VideoWave individually, but it immediately crashes and closes.

My software drivers are up-to-date according to Roxio and Dell.

I have a full retail version of EMC Creator 10 Suite, but that never did work without hangs and crashes.  At least Creator Premier 10 works, so I am reluctant to load the other version.  



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Posted 24 September 2008 - 07:00 AM

I don't have Creator Premier but here are my take on your issues

QUOTE (Kim_PDX @ Sep 24 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a Dell Inspiron 1420 with Roxio Creator Premier 10 installed by Dell. It does not contain all the individual features that I had with my Easy Media Creator 10 Suite, but I didn't use many of those features anyway.

Here is my question:

With Creator Premier 10, the only way you can access Videowave (or a Videowave-esque window) is through My DVD. This gives you access to all the basic VideoWave features you would expect to see in the EMC 10 Suites, I have used this successfully to create movies with sound, transitions, etc., and I have been successful in outputting to a variety of formats.

However when you save this file, the file format is .DMSD, which is a MyDVD file format. Same as EMC 10.

Creator Premier 10 MyDVD allows you to import movies into your production, including VideoWave .dmsm files. However Creator Premier 10 MyDVD does not allow you to import other MyDVD .dmsd files. This seems odd, because I cannot find a way to create a .DMSM file with Creator Premier 10 MyDVD while using the VideoWave-esque window. You then use the saved MyDVD dmsd file to edit the movie within it. Videowave is integrated in MyDVD and your Creator Premier version does not have the functionality to use Videowave as a stand-alone application. sad.gif

Has anyone found a work-around to create .DMSM files with Creator Premier 10 MyDVD? Even in the full blown EMC 10 Suite, this is not a feature or doable.
If you change the extension on a .DMSD file to .DMSM, it will launch VideoWave individually, but it immediately crashes and closes.

My software drivers are up-to-date according to Roxio and Dell.

I have a full retail version of EMC Creator 10 Suite, but that never did work without hangs and crashes. Did you install it in the machine where Creator Premiere 10 is installed?

At least Creator Premier 10 works, so I am reluctant to load the other version. There might be a conflict if you installed EMC 10 in the same machine . Is there another machine where you can install EMC 10?

Edited by malatekid, 24 September 2008 - 07:00 AM.

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (Kim_PDX @ Sep 24 2008, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone found a work-around to create .DMSM files with Creator Premier 10 MyDVD? If you change the extension on a .DMSD file to .DMSM, it will launch VideoWave individually, but it immediately crashes and closes.

I guess I don't understand the problem.

Why do you want to create a .DMSM file?   If the Roxio OEM program is set up so that the only way you can access VideoWave is through MyDVD, then the program will crash even if you have a .dmsm file available.  You don't have a standalone version of VideoWave.

The .dmsm file is an editing file, just as the .dmsd file is for the MyDVD program.   It depends on you having a standalone, functional version of VideoWave which you don't seem to have.

(Now I don't have that program, so I can't test it to see.   However, based on your description, that seems to be what is happening.)

As far as the EMC 10 Suite program crashing, it might not install correctly with the Dell version on the computer.   I wouldn't advise uninstalling the Dell version unless you have a way to install it again, including any CD key that might be necessary.  






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#4 Jim_Hardin

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 11:42 AM

As you know a dmsd file is a Project file from MyDVD. You can only have ONE PROJECT running at one time! That is why you cannot add multiple dmsd files.

It sounds as though you want to do edits to various movie clips then combine them in MyDVD? With your limitations I think what you need to do is edit then use the Output As (movie reel icon at the top) and save it as an mpg or DV AVI.

Then you can add these clips to MyDVD.

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 04:56 PM

I guess I don't understand the problem.

Why do you want to create a .DMSM file?  
I have multiple MyDVD projects (movies with clips, transitions, music, etc) and I would like to combine them as individual movies in a single MyDVD project and preserve all the editing capabilities.  I can add new movies, but the required format is .DMSM, .MPG, .JPG, etc.  You cannot add a .DMSD project as a new movie.  I understand that I can output to MPG or whatever and add that as a new movie, but I would lose the ability to edit the clips, transitions, etc.  

I realized too late in my movie building process that I could add new movies within a single MyDVD project.  I am trying to avoid rebuilding 5-6 little movies with all the editing capability in a single MyDVD project.


If the Roxio OEM program is set up so that the only way you can access VideoWave is through MyDVD, then the program will crash even if you have a .dmsm file available.  You don't have a standalone version of VideoWave.

The .dmsm file is an editing file, just as the .dmsd file is for the MyDVD program.   It depends on you having a standalone, functional version of VideoWave which you don't seem to have.

(Now I don't have that program, so I can't test it to see.   However, based on your description, that seems to be what is happening.)

As far as the EMC 10 Suite program crashing, it might not install correctly with the Dell version on the computer.   I wouldn't advise uninstalling the Dell version unless you have a way to install it again, including any CD key that might be necessary.

Like many other users, EMC 10 Suite never ran properly without crashes on my old Dell.  I was foolish enough to buy it twice and it crashed, crashed, and crashed.  I have given up on EMC 10.  I bought my current Dell in April 2008 with Creator Premier 10 pre-installed.  EMC 10 Suite has never been installed.

Edited by Kim_PDX, 24 September 2008 - 05:02 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2008 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Kim_PDX @ Sep 24 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess I don't understand the problem.

Why do you want to create a .DMSM file?  
I have multiple MyDVD projects (movies with clips, transitions, music, etc) and I would like to combine them as individual movies in a single MyDVD project and preserve all the editing capabilities.  I can add new movies, but the required format is .DMSM, .MPG, .JPG, etc.  You cannot add a .DMSD project as a new movie.  I understand that I can output to MPG or whatever and add that as a new movie, but I would lose the ability to edit the clips, transitions, etc.  

I realized too late in my movie building process that I could add new movies within a single MyDVD project.  I am trying to avoid rebuilding 5-6 little movies with all the editing capability in a single MyDVD project.


If the Roxio OEM program is set up so that the only way you can access VideoWave is through MyDVD, then the program will crash even if you have a .dmsm file available.  You don't have a standalone version of VideoWave.

The .dmsm file is an editing file, just as the .dmsd file is for the MyDVD program.   It depends on you having a standalone, functional version of VideoWave which you don't seem to have.

(Now I don't have that program, so I can't test it to see.   However, based on your description, that seems to be what is happening.)

As far as the EMC 10 Suite program crashing, it might not install correctly with the Dell version on the computer.   I wouldn't advise uninstalling the Dell version unless you have a way to install it again, including any CD key that might be necessary.

Like many other users, EMC 10 Suite never ran properly without crashes on my old Dell.  I was foolish enough to buy it twice and it crashed, crashed, and crashed.  I have given up on EMC 10.  I bought my current Dell in April 2008 with Creator Premier 10 pre-installed.  EMC 10 Suite has never been installed.


The reason that you can't bring in more than one .dmsd file is because of the menus and other authoring done to each of the .dmsd saved files.

You can open each of those files, individually, hit the Edit Movie button, if you have that in your version, and when VideoWave comes up, you can output as an .mpg2 file.  Once you have done that, you can bring them into MyDVD, then make changes to the menu, etc., and burn your production.



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Posted 24 September 2008 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (grandpabruce @ Sep 24 2008, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The reason that you can't bring in more than one .dmsd file is because of the menus and other authoring done to each of the .dmsd saved files.

You can open each of those files, individually, hit the Edit Movie button, if you have that in your version, and when VideoWave comes up, you can output as an .mpg2 file.  Once you have done that, you can bring them into MyDVD, then make changes to the menu, etc., and burn your production.


I am not explaining my issue very well.  I do not want to output as an .MPG2 file because this will be one long .MPG2 file and will not retain the clip-by-clip VideoWave editing capability from its original MyDvd/VideoWave production.  

I want to have 5-6 individual VideoWave-esque movies in one big MyDVD production rather than 5-6 MyDVD productions each containing a single VideoWave movie.  Each single movie MyDVD production runs about 4 minutes and has between 50-70 clips, various effects, and titles.  If I output to an MPG2 file, I will have one 4 minute MPG2 file.  This limits my ability to quickly add/subtract clips and effects.  Yeah I can do it, but it would be much easier if I could retain all the VideoWave properties from the original MyDVD movie file.  That way if I want to swap out Clip No. 37 on Movie No. 2, I swap just that clip.  

I fear that I will ultimately have to rebuild my individual MyDVD productions into a single MyDVD production with 5-6 movies.  Until then I can certainly work with the individual productions and author DVDs.  


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Posted 24 September 2008 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (Kim_PDX @ Sep 25 2008, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am not explaining my issue very well.  I do not want to output as an .MPG2 file because this will be one long .MPG2 file and will not retain the clip-by-clip VideoWave editing capability from its original MyDvd/VideoWave production.  

I want to have 5-6 individual VideoWave-esque movies in one big MyDVD production rather than 5-6 MyDVD productions each containing a single VideoWave movie.  Each single movie MyDVD production runs about 4 minutes and has between 50-70 clips, various effects, and titles.  If I output to an MPG2 file, I will have one 4 minute MPG2 file.  This limits my ability to quickly add/subtract clips and effects.  Yeah I can do it, but it would be much easier if I could retain all the VideoWave properties from the original MyDVD movie file.  That way if I want to swap out Clip No. 37 on Movie No. 2, I swap just that clip.  

I fear that I will ultimately have to rebuild my individual MyDVD productions into a single MyDVD production with 5-6 movies.  Until then I can certainly work with the individual productions and author DVDs.  


Why don't you get the full EMC 10 (or Creator 2009) if you want to use Videowave as a stand-alone program?
myDVD cannot create Videowave dmsm project files!

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE (myguggi @ Sep 24 2008, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why don't you get the full EMC 10 (or Creator 2009) if you want to use Videowave as a stand-alone program?
myDVD cannot create Videowave dmsm project files!


She's got EMC 10 but it kept crashing.

I don't think there is a solution using the Dell Creator Premier 10.    Part of the problem is that none of us have the program so we can't test it to see if it's working properly.

At this point, I think you need to go to the Dell Website Support and discussion groups where others who have that program might be able to help you.
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Posted 24 September 2008 - 10:36 PM

QUOTE (myguggi @ Sep 24 2008, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why don't you get the full EMC 10 (or Creator 2009) if you want to use Videowave as a stand-alone program?
myDVD cannot create Videowave dmsm project files!


I own the full version of EMC 10 Suite.  Actually, I own 2 licensed copies.  But I always had crashes and hangs on my old Dell (XP) despite my many clean installs.  When I ordered my new Dell (Vista), I ordered the Creator Premier 10 as a Dell installed software.  So no hangs, but it's sans a stand-alone VideoWave.

I am already starting to see posts about Creator 2009 crashing and hanging, so I am reluctant to pay the $$$ for this headache.  I could just as well install EMC 10, which I already own, and get all the hangs and crashes without paying anything more : )


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Posted 24 September 2008 - 11:04 PM

QUOTE (Kim_PDX @ Sep 25 2008, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I own the full version of EMC 10 Suite. Actually, I own 2 licensed copies. But I always had crashes and hangs on my old Dell (XP) despite my many clean installs. When I ordered my new Dell (Vista), I ordered the Creator Premier 10 as a Dell installed software. So no hangs, but it's sans a stand-alone VideoWave.

I am already starting to see posts about Creator 2009 crashing and hanging, so I am reluctant to pay the $$$ for this headache. I could just as well install EMC 10, which I already own, and get all the hangs and crashes without paying anything more : )

Support for versions of the software provided by computer manufacturers comes from the computer manufacturer.   In your case it is Dell.


Could Dell not help you in their discussion forums?  Link here: http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums...ry.id=Tech_Talk
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