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[my7551]

While I await the repair CD, I'm reading the forum and EMC8 Product site.

Without getting overly technical, why are the System Requirements for EMC8 so high?

I guess I mean, with such high requirements, what does EMC8 actually DO better/faster than similar (yes Nero) programs do for Win98/P2/800x600 and up?

Discount the likes of BackUp or Lablemaker that should work on a Pentium One or less, but the CORE DVD/video programs (I do not use Audio).

This isn't a gripe, but I'm throwing in a lot of time/effort/money to get the CORE programs of EMC8 up and running. I'd like positive reenforcement that it will be worth it.

Am I going to be saying WOW, or ho hum?

[Beerman]

my7551, on Apr 9 2006, 02:31 PM, said:

While I await the repair CD, I'm reading the forum and EMC8 Product site.

Without getting overly technical, why are the System Requirements for EMC8 so high?

I guess I mean, with such high requirements, what does EMC8 actually DO better/faster than similar (yes Nero) programs do for Win98/P2/800x600 and up?

Discount the likes of BackUp or Lablemaker that should work on a Pentium One or less, but the CORE DVD/video programs (I do not use Audio).

This isn't a gripe, but I'm throwing in a lot of time/effort/money to get the CORE programs of EMC8 up and running. I'd like positive reenforcement that it will be worth it.

Am I going to be saying WOW, or ho hum?

I don't find the requirements high at all.  Yes, you can't have a computer that's 3 years old and do all of what 8 offers but to do decent video work, you do need a fast, modern machine.  Why would a company make a program that won't work to the fullest with the new machines out there?

[grandpabruce]

my7551, on Apr 9 2006, 02:31 PM, said:

While I await the repair CD, I'm reading the forum and EMC8 Product site.

Without getting overly technical, why are the System Requirements for EMC8 so high?

I guess I mean, with such high requirements, what does EMC8 actually DO better/faster than similar (yes Nero) programs do for Win98/P2/800x600 and up?

Discount the likes of BackUp or Lablemaker that should work on a Pentium One or less, but the CORE DVD/video programs (I do not use Audio).

This isn't a gripe, but I'm throwing in a lot of time/effort/money to get the CORE programs of EMC8 up and running. I'd like positive reenforcement that it will be worth it.

Am I going to be saying WOW, or ho hum?

Huh?  Since you asked about Nero, try running Nero Ultra 7 on a PII system at 800x600 resolution and Win98 as the OS.  Guess what.  It ain't going to happen.

And my term for you certainly would not be "Curious Yellow".

Edited by grandpabruce, 09 April 2006 - 11:57 AM.

[ggrussell]

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Win98/P2/800x600

I'd say it was WAY over due for you to buy a new computer. Don't even think about buying anything Adobe. They now require a CPU with SSE2 and that leaves out just about all of the AMD processors except a few of the newest ones.

Edited by ggrussell, 09 April 2006 - 12:31 PM.

[cdanteek]

my7551, on Apr 9 2006, 07:31 PM, said:

I guess I mean, with such high requirements, what does EMC8 actually DO better/faster than similar (yes Nero) programs do for Win98/P2/800x600 and up?

Your reference to Nero and P2 above is wrong.
They look pretty much the same except for the operating system. Every retail dvd burner I have bought in the past two years say w2000 or xp, but work fine in w98.
Bruce I do run a PII 450 800 x 600 with a full version on Nero 6 with no problems.



EMC 8
Minimum System Requirements:

Microsoft® Windows XP Home/Pro/MCE (Service Pack 2) Windows XP Pro x64 Edition*, or Windows 2000 (Service Pack 4 or later)
For burning music and data discs:
500 MHz Intel® Pentium III or equivalent; 128 MB RAM
For DVD, slideshow or video authoring:
1.2 GHz Intel® Pentium III or equivalent; 256 MB RAM
For real-time MPEG-2 capture and burning:
1.6 GHz Intel® Pentium 4 or equivalent 1 GB of free hard disk space for typical installation of all components
1 GB of free hard disk space for every 5 minutes of video for video capture
Up to 9 GB of free hard disk space for copying DVDVideo* discs
1024x768, 16-bit color graphics card. 24-bit or 32-bit true color recommended
DirectX 9 or higher compatible graphics card
QuickTime 6.4 or greater for playback of m4a files
CD-ROM compatible drive
Windows Media Player 7.1 or higher and Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.01 or higher
*Not compatible with BackUp MyPC


Optional:

For burning: multimedia compliant CD or DVD Recordable drive
For audio: 16-bit Windows compatible sound card and speakers
Internet connection required for registration, product updates, sharing or downloading content, emailing and CDDB support (to retrieve CD artist, album and track information). Any charges incurred are the responsibility of the user
For video capture: OHCI compliant IEEE 1394 FireWire card (for use with DV camera) or video capture device
Floppy disk drive required for disaster recovery


  
Nero 7
General system requirements
Microsoft® Windows 98/98SE/Me, Windows 2000 (Service Pack 4 or later), Windows XP, Windows 2003 Server (Service Pack 1 or later), MCE 2004 / 2005
Microsoft® Windows Internet Explorer 4.0 or later
LightScribe is only available for Windows 2000 (Service Pack 4 or later), Windows XP, Windows 2003 servers or MCE 2004 / 2005
To install Nero 7, you must have administrative rights for all operating systems above Windows 2000.

Processor and memory

For writing audio and data discs:
- 800Mhz Intel® Pentium® 3 processor or AMD Sempron™ 2200+
  processors or equivalent
- 128 MB RAM
For TV recordings, DVD and video authoring:
- 1.2Ghz Intel® Pentium® 3 processor or AMD Sempron™ 2600+
  processors or equivalent
- 128MB RAM
For real−time capturing and burning:
- 1.6Ghz Intel® Pentium® 4 processor or AMD Sempron™ 2600+
  processors or equivalent
- 128MB RAM
Hard disk space

600 MB disk space for a typical installation of all the components
Up to 9 GB available hard disk space for DVD images and temporary DVD files


Display settings

Graphics card with at least 8 MB video memory and minimum resolution of 800 x 600 pixels and 16-bit color settings. However, 24-bit or 32-bit true color is recommended.


Optical device

CD- or DVD recordable or rewritable drive

Optional requirements

16-bit Microsoft© Windows compatible soundcard and speakers
Installation of latest WHQL (Microsoft® Windows Hardware Quality Labs) certified device drivers recommended


Special minimum requirements for individual programs


InCD 5
CD- or DVD-rewritable drive


Nero ShowTime 2

System requirements:

Microsoft© DirektX 9.0b or later
Optical drive with DVD capability to playback DVD-Video
Graphics card with video overlay support
DVD-Video plug-in for DVD-Video playback


Nero Home / Nero Vision 4*

System requirements:

Microsoft© DirektX 9.0b or later

Optional:

OHCI compliant FireWire© controller (IEEE 1394) for DV capturing
TV Tuner or video capture card for analog recording

Installation of the latest WHQL certified device drivers recommended
List of compatible devices: Supported Capture Cards
DVD-Video plug-in* for DVD-Video function and Dolby® Digital 2 channel encoding


Nero Recode 2

System requirements:

Microsoft© DirektX 9.0b or later

Optional:

DVD-Video plug-in* to enable DVD recoding, and DVD-9 to DVD-5 feature.


Nero Cover Designer

Optional:

Printer


Nero PhotoSnap, Nero PhotoSnap Viewer

System requirements:

Microsoft® DirectX 9.0b or later


LightScribe

System requirements:

Supported LightScribe recorder
Installed LightScribe Host Software


* DVD-Video plug-in is already included in retail version.

[grandpabruce]

Wow, cd, if you can actually do any video work, I would bet that you start the process on Sunday, and look to see if it is done on the following Saturday.  LOL

Have you tried the Ultra 7 with your PII.  And, would you consider sending that puppy to me, for mailing costs?  I really do need a new anchor for my boat.    (And I think you know I am kidding you.)

[my7551]

Whoa!
I didn't intend this as a bash on EMC8 or Nero.

I was asking WHAT the EMC8 (DVD/video) does (assume fully-working) SO much better/faster than, for example, Nero 6.

I happen to have/use Nero 6 Ultra and it works for me. I bought EMC8 for the remembered-nice interface of VW5.
[ I did NOT buy Nero 7 as it looked, to me, that all they added was the ability to control your TV and some other "fluff." I have no idea what Lightscribe is, nor do I care.]

Within the last year I have purchased two Memorex 16x Double layer machines and they are quite happy with my P3 WinME and P4 WinXP machines.

Anyway, I realize that EMC8 will NOT work on my P3, I have EVERY EXPECTAION that it WILL work AFTER I get/install the fix-CD.

One more time: Will I be saying "WOW"    about this good-looking/better/faster (is it?) product? If so, why?
Or will it be Ho Hum ?   

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ps, (replies to individual replies) I do NOT use my P2 for DVD/video (did I ever say I did?) but my P3 and P4 are about equal using Nero. (Oh, I CAN use my P2 w/Nero and or VW5, and have done so in the past, but I just don't use it for that any more).
I have NO expectation that EMC8 will work with my WinME P3.
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>>>"I don't find the requirements high at all. Yes, you can't have a computer that's 3 years old and do all of what 8 offers but to do decent video work, you do need a fast, modern machine. Why would a company make a program that won't work to the fullest with the new machines out there?"<<<

I AM getting "decent" video work from my existing machines, antique or not. I'm looking for WHAT EMC8 does better/faster.
What is so unfast and unmodern about a P4 2.4 w/Intel MB?

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>>>"...Don't even think about buying anything Adobe..."<<<

Gee whiz, of course not. If I earned my living at this stuff, I'd bite the bullet and buy top-of-the-line gear and programs. Nero/EMC8/Pinnacle/etc... are "enthusiast" fun-level stuff, aren't they? General Public stuff? Converting vacation camcorder videos to DVD?  Sure, they can all do more, with added involvement and education of the buyer, but ....geeez.

Edited by my7551, 09 April 2006 - 03:16 PM.

[cdanteek]

ggrussell, on Apr 9 2006, 08:30 PM, said:

I'd say it was WAY over due for you to buy a new computer. Don't even think about buying anything Adobe. They now require a CPU with SSE2 and that leaves out just about all of the AMD processors except a few of the newest ones.

  I thought all Athlon 64 supported SSE SSE2, and last year SSE3 was included?

cdanteek

[ml]

All the newer video editing programs are requiring more computer resources.

It does have some newer features including the ability to do widescreen video and more 3D type effects.

However, I wouldn't buy a new computer or do significant hardware upgrades unless what you have isn't doing the video editing that you need.

[my7551]

Is "widescreen" different than the 16:9 ration from the old (selectable) 4:3 and 16:9 ratios?

I was looking for
"It recodes twice as fast" or "It burns twice as fast" and stuff like that.
Does it do either?

Considering all the newest Requirements, there must be major gains?

There are lots of "it fails to do this or that" here.
I was looking for GOOD stuff...

Edited by my7551, 10 April 2006 - 08:02 AM.