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[dmreso]

I have noticed after recently installing, that the default media manager configuration
is to scan all drives on the system.  It then proceeds to update the file modification date
of all encountered files!!!  What is it doing to my files?

[grandpabruce]

dmreso, on Jan 8 2006, 02:38 PM, said:

I have noticed after recently installing, that the default media manager configuration
is to scan all drives on the system.  It then proceeds to update the file modification date
of all encountered files!!!  What is it doing to my files?

There was an explanation on the old boards, but I don't know if the reason was posted since the new boards have come into being.

I disabled it via msconfig, never to be run again.  I did it before it was able to change any files on my computer.

[dmreso]

Hopefully, a running "Roxio Hard Drive Watcher" service (msconfig) is no harm as long
as one configures Media Manager  to "Stop Watching Folders" under "Tools>".   Of course,
it's better if you have precognitive abilities and disable it before first launch ;-)

I have found by referring to some previous backups, that the CRC of the files are not
changed, so at least there is no real file modifications. Still, it's most annoying.

In the meantime, I have altered the "Watch" list to a single "Temp" folder.

[broadbeam9]

dmreso, on Jan 8 2006, 01:59 PM, said:

Hopefully, a running "Roxio Hard Drive Watcher" service (msconfig) is no harm as long
as one configures Media Manager  to "Stop Watching Folders" under "Tools>".   Of course,
it's better if you have precognitive abilities and disable it before first launch ;-)

I have found by referring to some previous backups, that the CRC of the files are not
changed, so at least there is no real file modifications. Still, it's most annoying.

In the meantime, I have altered the "Watch" list to a single "Temp" folder.

[Larry]

dmreso, on Jan 8 2006, 02:38 PM, said:

I have noticed after recently installing, that the default media manager configuration
is to scan all drives on the system. It then proceeds to update the file modification date
of all encountered files!!! What is it doing to my files?

It's tagging some extra information on to the file's metadata stream. It is not making any actual changes to the original file itself. This may help explain it better for you.

As a part of Easy Media Creator 8, the RoxWatch application stores metadata as part of a file that is located within an alternate data stream. When a file is indexed by RoxWatch so that it is accessible through Media Manager, there is an alternate data stream added. This information is similiar to a virtual sticky note. This virtual sticky note contains a unique identification number which is assigned to media files on your hard drive. Only media files which are indexed by RoxWatch will contain this information.

[malatekid]

dmreso, on Jan 8 2006, 04:59 PM, said:

Hopefully, a running "Roxio Hard Drive Watcher" service (msconfig) is no harm as long
as one configures Media Manager to "Stop Watching Folders" under "Tools>". Of course,
it's better if you have precognitive abilities and disable it before first launch ;-)

I have found by referring to some previous backups, that the CRC of the files are not
changed, so at least there is no real file modifications. Still, it's most annoying.

In the meantime, I have altered the "Watch" list to a single "Temp" folder.

See the extra info:

http://forums.suppor...findpost&p=4679

[clowesga]

I also just discovered to my dismay that Media Manager in EMC8 -- without informing the user, or asking permission -- changes the creation dates of all jpg, gif, TIF, mpg, and avi files when it scans your hard drive. It also changes the archive bit. Since this destroys critical/useful/valuable information on your hard drive, this change is not only an unprofessional action, it also is malicious. However, from the posts I have read, it appears Roxio has been unresponsive to the issue and has neither produced an update to stop this unwanted action permanently nor has offered any software fix for restoring the corrupted files to their original state and creation date. The msconfig fix is not a permanent fix, nor is turning off the Watch function.  Does anyone have a way to fix this permanently without uninstalling EMC8 and returning to EMC 7.5? I do not relish the prospect of having to reload all my  jpg, gif, TIF, mpg, and avi files from backup media.

[malatekid]

clowesga, on Jun 10 2006, 12:31 PM, said:

I also just discovered to my dismay that Media Manager in EMC8 -- without informing the user, or asking permission -- changes the creation dates of all jpg, gif, TIF, mpg, and avi files when it scans your hard drive. It also changes the archive bit. Since this destroys critical/useful/valuable information on your hard drive, this change is not only an unprofessional action, it also is malicious. However, from the posts I have read, it appears Roxio has been unresponsive to the issue and has neither produced an update to stop this unwanted action permanently nor has offered any software fix for restoring the corrupted files to their original state and creation date. The msconfig fix is not a permanent fix, nor is turning off the Watch function. Does anyone have a way to fix this permanently without uninstalling EMC8 and returning to EMC 7.5? I do not relish the prospect of having to reload all my jpg, gif, TIF, mpg, and avi files from backup media.

Here is some information.

Edited by malatekid, 10 June 2006 - 03:17 PM.

[clowesga]

Thanks. That suggestion is very helpful and should permanently disable the Media Manager while leaving the other program components intact -- if I decide ever to use EMC 8 again.

Does anyone have an easy fix/program  for restoring the creation dates and archive bits on the thousands of media files that Media Manager corrupted on my hard drive?

[d_deweywright]

clowesga, on Jun 11 2006, 08:56 PM, said:

Thanks. That suggestion is very helpful and should permanently disable the Media Manager while leaving the other program components intact -- if I decide ever to use EMC 8 again.

Does anyone have an easy fix/program  for restoring the creation dates and archive bits on the thousands of media files that Media Manager corrupted on my hard drive?

Unfortunately, unless you're running GoBack, or have a recent image of that drive, there's probably no program that can do what you want as far as restoring the creation dates.  Sorry.

[clowesga]

d_deweywright, on Jun 13 2006, 02:38 AM, said:

Unfortunately, unless you're running GoBack, or have a recent image of that drive, there's probably no program that can do what you want as far as restoring the creation dates.  Sorry.

I was afraid that was the case, but thanks for the confirmation. I have uninstalled the Media Manager segment of EMC8 and plan to reload (from backup media) all the files that Media Manager changed. I don't plan on using EMC8 again, except for audio files and file backups. I'm sorry to have to drop the use of the program since -- until this Media Manager incident -- I'd been a very satisfied Roxio user for many years.

This is a very helpful discussion group.

[mrheadrick]

Well.. if your JPG's were created with a digital camera or other device that put EXIF information in, you can use Exifer http://www.friedeman...oftware/exifer/ to redate your files based on the date stored in the EXIF information.

Irfanview can also redate files based on the Exif date.  I think there's a Exif plugin you have to install though.

Hope that helps for some of it.

When I installed EMC 8 Deluxe..  I told it not to install Media Manager since I learned my lesson previously..  :/

Mark H.

[malatekid]

mrheadrick, on Jun 23 2006, 11:45 AM, said:

Well.. if your JPG's were created with a digital camera or other device that put EXIF information in, you can use Exifer http://www.friedeman...oftware/exifer/ to redate your files based on the date stored in the EXIF information.

Irfanview can also redate files based on the Exif date. I think there's a Exif plugin you have to install though.

Hope that helps for some of it.

When I installed EMC 8 Deluxe.. I told it not to install Media Manager since I learned my lesson previously.. :/

Mark H.

Mark,

This sounds like a good utility software. Thanks for passing the link.