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Converting Ntsc To Pal Our self-produced DVD has been purchased by someone in England

#1 User is offline   TimothyClo 

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:32 PM

Using Creator 2009. Can't find anything in the Help section of "Video Copy & Convert" about taking our self-produced DVD ("Now You Know How...To Blow-Dry Your Hair" -- makes a mighty fine Christmas gift for that lady in your life rolleyes.gif ). A lovely lady in England purchased the DVD and I suppose I will need to convert it to PAL format. Can Creator 2009 handle this????


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:51 PM

yes... Just open your MyDVD project. Click on FILE menu and choose Project Settings. Change to PAL and burn.
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Posted 11 December 2008 - 10:11 PM

Thanks Gary! I apologize, I should have made it clear that the project is on a master DVD in NTSC format. I did not create it in MyDVD. I need to copy the DVD and convert to PAL... if that is even possible. I'm sure I could import the video, recreate my 30 chapter IDs and 4 pages of menus unsure.gif and export... but is there way to copy and/or convert from DVD to DVD? And maybe I'm just missing how to do that in MyDVD. And maybe I'm asking for too much. I'm just hoping to avoid a tedious menu build. Thanks again for your help!!!!

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 06:37 AM

QUOTE (TimothyClo @ Dec 12 2008, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but is there way to copy and/or convert from DVD to DVD?
Sorry , I don't think so, but you could try Video Copy & Convert.
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Posted 12 December 2008 - 07:18 AM

QUOTE (ggrussell @ Dec 12 2008, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...you could try Video Copy & Convert.


I was hoping to see a way to change the output option to PAL in "VC&C"... but I don't see it. Any other ideas out there????
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Posted 12 December 2008 - 07:22 AM

QUOTE (TimothyClo @ Dec 12 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was hoping to see a way to change the output option to PAL in "VC&C"... but I don't see it. Any other ideas out there????

Look again???

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 07:40 AM

The Help Center says
Always convert to preferred video format (DVD-Video only): Select to always convert DivX and WMA source to the preferred video format, and then select NTSC or PAL from the Video Format drop-down list.

Does it mean the VCC conversion to NTSC/PAL is restricted to DivX and WMA source files only?

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 08:40 AM

Most players this side of the pond can handle NTSC playback
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Posted 12 December 2008 - 08:46 AM

QUOTE (malatekid @ Dec 12 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Help Center says
Always convert to preferred video format (DVD-Video only): Select to always convert DivX and WMA source to the preferred video format, and then select NTSC or PAL from the Video Format drop-down list.

Does it mean the VCC conversion to NTSC/PAL is restricted to DivX and WMA source files only?

What happened when you tried it?
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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:38 AM

Haven't had the chance to try it as I never needed a PAL format; I just browsed the Help to see what those options are for in the snapshot you provided.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 01:29 PM

QUOTE (malatekid @ Dec 12 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haven't had the chance to try it as I never needed a PAL format; I just browsed the Help to see what those options are for in the snapshot you provided.

Well I did try it and it didn't work, at least with an AVI…

I will try it with a WMV in a little while. This won't do Timothy any good to have to convert from one format into another so that it can be converted again – I'm dizzy just thinking about it!

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 01:54 PM

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I did not create it in MyDVD. I need to copy the DVD and convert to PAL... if that is even possible


This looks like a commercially produced DVD, copy protection?? Open Video Copy and Convert, Load the DVD as source, do you see the protected disc?

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ Dec 12 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This looks like a commercially produced DVD, copy protection?? Open Video Copy and Convert, Load the DVD as source, do you see the protected disc?


The DVD we sell is copy protected, but I am using a version that the DVD authoring company made for us so we could verify the menu navigation structure. So when I insert the disc, it does not say "Protected Disc". (see image below)

BTW Jim... the screen capture you posted of the "options"... I do not see how to pull that up. I only get the "general options" dialog box under the Tools > Options menu. (see image below)



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Posted 12 December 2008 - 03:49 PM

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A lovely lady in England purchased the DVD and I suppose I will need to convert it to PAL format. Can Creator 2009 handle this????


Here is what I come up with when I search the problem. Is it not true?


I have an NTSC project and want a PAL DVD.
The good news is: You can just send an NTSC disc. Any PAL set top DVD player capable of playing DVD-R discs can also play NTSC discs. All that is needed is a fairly new TV, built in the last 8-10 years or so.



All DVD players sold in PAL countries play both kinds of discs. These multi-standard players partially convert NTSC to a 60-Hz PAL (4.43 NTSC) signal. The player uses the PAL 4.43-MHz color subcarrier encoding format but keeps the 525/60 NTSC scanning rate. Most modern PAL TV's can handle this "Pseudo-PAL" signal. A few multi-standard PAL players output true 3.58 NTSC from NTSC discs, which requires an NTSC TV or a multi-standard TV. Some players have a switch to choose 60-Hz PAL or true NTSC output when playing NTSC discs.


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Posted 12 December 2008 - 04:20 PM

Err - I already SAID that laugh.gif

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Dec 12 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Err - I already SAID that laugh.gif

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 04:31 PM

Notice that you have DVD Video Copy selected. Click on Video Compilation to get the same options that Jim points out.

I'm not sure if this will work for you since there are secondary audio channels.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 04:40 PM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ Dec 13 2008, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Posted 12 December 2008 - 05:24 PM

QUOTE (ggrussell @ Dec 12 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Notice that you have DVD Video Copy selected. Click on Video Compilation to get the same options that Jim points out.


Also, as it turns-out, you gotta have a project loaded to see that "options" button, otherwise it's just blank under "Options Summary" on the Video Compilations page. Maybe this would work. I'm going to try it out... just for the heck of it, but as our dear friend across the pond has informed us all... I shouldn't need to convert. So, great. I'll just send her our NTSC version and assume it'll work.

Thanks again guys!

And remember... if you've ever heard that special woman in your life complain that she doesn't know what to do w/ her hair... might I recommend my wife's DVD "Now You Know How..To Blow-Dry Your Hair" as a Holiday gift. rolleyes.gif

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 04:00 AM

QUOTE (TimothyClo @ Dec 12 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, as it turns-out, you gotta have a project loaded to see that "options" button, otherwise it's just blank under "Options Summary" on the Video Compilations page. Maybe this would work. I'm going to try it out... just for the heck of it, but as our dear friend across the pond has informed us all... I shouldn't need to convert. So, great. I'll just send her our NTSC version and assume it'll work.

Thanks again guys!

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I could not get it to work as 'we' would have wanted it to…

I do not believe there is anyway to do this in 2009 and I am not sure it was even possible in earlier versions?

Keep in mind you are not simply copying a disc. You have to open and re-render each and every VOB file on your disc!

I am guessing that you do not get enough PAL orders to warrant dual production runs?

You may want to have the firm that supplied you the Master supply you with 2 Masters in the future – One NTSC and One PAL.

As Daithi pointed out, most PAL Players will also play NTSC. You could stipulate that and use this as a test case…

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