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Usb Capture Device With Creator 2009 USB capture device with Creator 2009 for lp's

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:49 PM

I just installed Creator 2009 with the supplied capture device. have a late model Dell Optiplex 740 running vista business.
Capture device picks up from the turntable but is faint and tinny. do I need to run the signal through an amplifier to supply some sort of preamp? Also if I do that, will the captured signal be just as it sounds in the speakers, or will it have to be enhanced.
As it shows, I am very new to this.
My other question is if I have a Video DVD with music, can I just record the sound track.
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Posted 27 December 2008 - 03:30 AM

Yes!

The device is a pass it along… It converts Analog input into Digital output but it is a little small to be an amplifier and equalizer. laugh.gif

You should be able to do the DVD Audio since you have the 2009 SP2 update installed. It wouldn't do it before the update! But to be honest, I did not test for that… Let us know! huh.gif

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 05:23 AM

You really need to do two things to the signal from a phono (LP) cartridge to get it 'ready' for recording.

1. RIAA equalistion - vinyl disks are cut with a pre-defined standard equalisation curve which cuts the bass and boosts treble.
On playback you need to apply the inverse of this to return to a 'flat' response relative to the originally recorded sound.
( this eq curve means that
1. the bass signals - now attenuated - can fit on the vinyl without requiring excessive excursion of the stylus.
2. the treble signals from the vinyl are attenuated and so the 'vinyl noise' is cut at the same time. )

2. You will generally need to boost the signal to get it to around the usual 'line' level of other sources - cassette / tuner etc - in order to make best use of the converter on the soundcard etc..
Should you be using a moving coil cartridge then the extra signal amplification required is likely to be significantly greater than that required with a moving magnet cartridge.

Assuming your capture device doesn't have these facilities then the easiest way is to run it through the phono stage of a hi-fi amp and take the signal from the 'tape out' socket.
Alternatively stand alone phono preamps are available.

Best Wishes.




QUOTE (nonferrous @ Dec 26 2008, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just installed Creator 2009 with the supplied capture device. have a late model Dell Optiplex 740 running vista business.
Capture device picks up from the turntable but is faint and tinny. do I need to run the signal through an amplifier to supply some sort of preamp? Also if I do that, will the captured signal be just as it sounds in the speakers, or will it have to be enhanced.
As it shows, I am very new to this.
My other question is if I have a Video DVD with music, can I just record the sound track.
Thanks


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Posted 28 December 2008 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ Dec 27 2008, 03:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes!

The device is a pass it along… It converts Analog input into Digital output but it is a little small to be an amplifier and equalizer. laugh.gif

You should be able to do the DVD Audio since you have the 2009 SP2 update installed. It wouldn't do it before the update! But to be honest, I did not test for that… Let us know! huh.gif


Thank you Jim, I understand what you are saying about signal strength and I will try to burn some audio tracks as soon as the seasonal rush settles down.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (rmorris @ Dec 27 2008, 05:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You really need to do two things to the signal from a phono (LP) cartridge to get it 'ready' for recording.

1. RIAA equalistion - vinyl disks are cut with a pre-defined standard equalisation curve which cuts the bass and boosts treble.
On playback you need to apply the inverse of this to return to a 'flat' response relative to the originally recorded sound.
( this eq curve means that
1. the bass signals - now attenuated - can fit on the vinyl without requiring excessive excursion of the stylus.
2. the treble signals from the vinyl are attenuated and so the 'vinyl noise' is cut at the same time. )

2. You will generally need to boost the signal to get it to around the usual 'line' level of other sources - cassette / tuner etc - in order to make best use of the converter on the soundcard etc..
Should you be using a moving coil cartridge then the extra signal amplification required is likely to be significantly greater than that required with a moving magnet cartridge.

Assuming your capture device doesn't have these facilities then the easiest way is to run it through the phono stage of a hi-fi amp and take the signal from the 'tape out' socket.
Alternatively stand alone phono preamps are available.

Best Wishes.

Thank you for the advice, I do not know what type cartridge is in the tone arm, it is a kenwood belt drive KD1500. I have a few nice amplifier-recievers on the shelf so I should be able to put a system back together.
I never got rid of all my old stuff as the CD's and DVD's took over, kept all the Vinyl, kept all the cassettes, even have a few 8 track tapes around. It has been fun digging it all out again. I am just a throw back with another new hobbie, this time it's almost free for a change.
Thanks again
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