[blake5298]

My creator 10 software has stopped letting me make copies of DVD-R or DVD+R... comes with an error message half way thru the first step. If I copy the DVD contents to my pc then create a fresh DVD of those same files, it will do that fine.

WHY NO COPY ALL OF A SUDDEN?

[Jim_Hardin]

My creator 10 software has stopped letting me make copies of DVD-R or DVD+R... comes with an error message half way thru the first step. If I copy the DVD contents to my pc then create a fresh DVD of those same files, it will do that fine.

WHY NO COPY ALL OF A SUDDEN?

The answer may be in the error message???

[blake5298]

the error says 'check disk for scratches or dust and try again' but these are squeaky clean discs!

[Jim_Hardin]

the error says 'check disk for scratches or dust and try again' but these are squeaky clean discs!

Well that really helped us a lot

Actually it does a little. It means the drive is losing sight of the disc during burn…

That could be a combination of sleazy media and drive problem.

Sleazy is easy to test, get something of known quality like Verbatim.

Drive Problem??? Could be with all the demands of copy, stash, burn & you Defending the Universe your PC is running out of power and the lights are getting dim in the burner.

Try the media idea first, it is easy and you can't go wrong with some good stuff in the house!

Since you have a work around, decide how hard you really want to go after the drive.

[blake5298]

thank you for the suggestions!

i have already had the drive replaced once by dell under warranty, which is now up.

like i said, it burns fine from scratch with data, but has a problem copying. i have a DL verbatim disc i can try to copy... i will let you know what happens.

[Jim_Hardin]

You never said anything about DL discs before!!!

Now you are getting into compatibility issues between 'plus' and 'dash' and there are problems going from one (4.7) to the other (8.5).

This is optical media you are dealing with and it has its' own rules and nothing in common with magnetic media other than both are round.

[blake5298]

oh, i didn't know that. i don't overstand the difference between the two.

i use mostly 4.7 discs, there are just a few projects that are too large, so i'll use a DL disc... my drive is an "optiarc DVDRW DL".

i have a feeling something is up with the drive itself, because after completing discs, my computer has been reading some of the files as corrupt and won't play or copy them back to the computer, even tho the disc was "completed successfully". i had been thinking something maybe wrong with the files, but i tried the discs out on my laptop and no errors, nothing showed as corrupt, all the files seem fine.

so, what does that tell me?

i have been having so much trouble with the computer and/or roxio... i have never used another burn program, so it's hard for me as a novice to know what is causing problems, the drive or the program...

[Jim_Hardin]

It is hard to pin some problems down…

Last time I was in a computer store they had boxes of DL Burners on the floor for $30! LightScribe drives no less!!!

For $30 bucks it takes longer to run tests than it does to swap out a drive…

[blake5298]

ok, thanks for your help!

does dell use very cheap product, is that why i've had problems with two in a row?

[Jim_Hardin]

ok, thanks for your help!

does dell use very cheap product, is that why i've had problems with two in a row?

I think they go with stock items. They changed their user board format some time back and I stopped visiting them.

When DVD burners finally became reachable, they put in an OEM version of the NEC-1100-A and it was a disaster!

Only 2 people in my house, but we have 5 Dells and I am looking to add another…

[cdanteek]

my drive is an "optiarc DVDRW DL"

does dell use very cheap product, is that why i've had problems with two in a row?

Usually Dell goes for a OEM specific drive even the firmware is OEM Dell specific!

Look in device manager and list your optiarc drive as it's listed there.



"Sony Optiarc Inc. (formerly Sony NEC Optiarc Inc.) is a subsidiary of Sony Corporation. The company's business is the design and manufacturing of optical disk drives, primarily for the OEM desktop and notebook PC markets.

The company was established on April 3, 2006 as a joint venture between Sony and NEC Corporation, each had share of 55% and 45% respectively. On September 11, 2008, it was announced that Sony will take over NEC's 45% share, making Optiarc wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony[2]. This took effect on December 5, 2008.[3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_NEC_Optiarc

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[blake5298]

thank you for all the info guys!

tell me something simple now... for best burning results, which brand:

sony, verbatim or magnavox for dvd-r?

[cdanteek]

thank you for all the info guys!

tell me something simple now... for best burning results, which brand:

sony, verbatim or magnavox for dvd-r?

verbatim....-R +R +R DL.....

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[blake5298]

hands down winner eh? thanks!

i thought maybe sony... but ok

[grandpabruce]

hands down winner eh? thanks!

i thought maybe sony... but ok

Taiyo Yuden is the Cadillac, but it is only available online. Verbatim is next in line and is available at most brick an mortar stores like Best Buy.

[blake5298]

bwoy you guys are quick to get back, thanks for that!


now i am getting curious, what is it that makes one better than another... materials used? machines used?

and for archiving important music, is there a big difference between the Taiyo Yuden ($30) and verbatim ($24) as far as quality or durability, etc?

thanks again, you guys have been a big help.

This post has been edited by blake5298: 18 March 2009 - 06:09 PM

[grandpabruce]

bwoy you guys are quick to get back, thanks for that!

ok, verbatim it is.

now i am getting curious, what is it that makes one better than another... materials used? machines used?

All of the above, and quality control.

[blake5298]

and for archiving important music, is there a big difference between the Taiyo Yuden ($30) and verbatim ($24) as far as quality or durability, etc?

thanks again, you guys have been a big help.

[Brendon]

and for archiving important music, is there a big difference between the Taiyo Yuden ($30) and verbatim ($24) as far as quality or durability, etc?

I have found TYs stand head and shoulders above the other good blank discs.

It's in the nature of the beast that ALL optical discs have errors during the burn process, and these errors are corrected [or ignored depending on the type of disc you're making] during the reading process. You can see/count the errors with a program like the excellent DiscSpeed program available free, here.

The TY discs consistently give me a much lower error count than the Verbatims, and both types are consistently better than almost any other brands I can get. The fewer errors I start out with, the longer the disc should be readable.

Once a disc is written, further errors develop with age, use, and storage. We can't wait for decades to see how long they actually remain readable, but indications with accelerated ageing tests are that they will last for decades and both TY and Verbatims have come up very well in those tests.

Regards,
Brendon

[blake5298]

WOW thank you, that info is great and am happy to know.

now one last thing on the subject i thought of;

what is the difference between dvd-r and dvd+r??

all i've ever been told is it's a compatibility thing and nothing more...