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Posted 23 March 2009 - 12:55 PM

I'm using Roxio MyDVD from EM10. I have successfully burned DVDs in the past using the same brand of DVD-R. Computer is XP. I have two burners, one internal, one external. Both have always worked reliably.
Today, Roxio did not "see" my external drive so I used the internal one. Project was validated, and appeared to burn successfully but will not play. Disk shows up as 3.5 gig but all .vob files read as 0 kb. I don't want to keep creating coasters. Anyone have suggestions?
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Posted 23 March 2009 - 02:13 PM

Problem continues. One more clue to share, in case it means anything. There is no video in the encoding preview window. I just have an image of concentric circles with the word "encoding." I need this done by Wednesday for a presentation so I'd be grateful for any help.

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE (dproxy @ Mar 23 2009, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Problem continues. One more clue to share, in case it means anything. There is no video in the encoding preview window. I just have an image of concentric circles with the word "encoding." I need this done by Wednesday for a presentation so I'd be grateful for any help.

Does the word "MPEG" appears in the preview screen along with a grey background and concentric white circles? That is usually a good sign.

Have you just burned an .iso image? Try that; it doesn't use any discs. Once its finished, verify that the size of the .iso image makes sense (of course it depends on the length of the production). If that "passes", then you can burn it onto a re-writable RW if you have one to avoid future coasters.
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Posted 23 March 2009 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE (Syrallas @ Mar 23 2009, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does the word "MPEG" appears in the preview screen along with a grey background and concentric white circles? That is usually a good sign.

Have you just burned an .iso image? Try that; it doesn't use any discs. Once its finished, verify that the size of the .iso image makes sense (of course it depends on the length of the production). If that "passes", then you can burn it onto a re-writable RW if you have one to avoid future coasters.


No MPEG in the preview screen. Bad sign, I guess.
I did create an .iso and the size of the image does match the length of the production. However, when I burned the image to an RW I got this error message: "One or more of your files did not compare to their originals. It is recommended you try to create your disc again."
Baffling.
Not only have I burned DVDs successfully with this same set up before, I've done it with the exact same files.
Thanks for the suggestions so far. Other ideas?
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Posted 23 March 2009 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (dproxy @ Mar 23 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No MPEG in the preview screen. Bad sign, I guess.
I did create an .iso and the size of the image does match the length of the production. However, when I burned the image to an RW I got this error message: "One or more of your files did not compare to their originals. It is recommended you try to create your disc again."
Baffling.
Not only have I burned DVDs successfully with this same set up before, I've done it with the exact same files.
Thanks for the suggestions so far. Other ideas?



It appears that you burned your video production as a data disc. That won't work. Use Video Copy and Convert to burn it to a DVD.

Did you preview the .iso file to see if it looked ok?

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE (dproxy @ Mar 23 2009, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did create an .iso and the size of the image does match the length of the production. However, when I burned the image to an RW I got this error message: "One or more of your files did not compare to their originals. It is recommended you try to create your disc again."
Baffling.

Just a thought about this particular error - does the RW you burned work, anyway? I saw a post recently where a member was getting that message, and it was because he had Windows Explorer set to display thumbnails. Windows also had its default settings where the thumbs.db files in each foolder were invisible.

He was burning folders to disc with verify turned on, and was getting that message because his thumbs files were changing between burn and verify [they're pretty dynamic].

I was wondering if this sort of thing was happening to you. That your burning was successful, but you were getting that error on verify because some piffling little unimportant system file had changed.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:59 AM

The .iso file I've created will not open in copy/convert. Nor will a previously created .iso file. I can see them in the media selector (left side window), but double clicking does not work to select. The right side window below says "Browse to find content for your project." The okay button is grayed out. I moved the .iso file to a different computer where I also have EMC10 installed and tried again, with the same result.
Are there other ways to preview .iso content?
Also, the previously burned RW disc appears to be blank. No content at all. I made it using the "burn image" function, so that may have been the problem. But if I can't bring the .iso file into copy/convert I have no clue how to proceed.
I'm starting to panic. Presentation is tomorrow.
Any other ideas?

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 05:09 AM

QUOTE (dproxy @ Mar 25 2009, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The .iso file I've created will not open in copy/convert. Nor will a previously created .iso file. I can see them in the media selector (left side window), but double clicking does not work to select. The right side window below says "Browse to find content for your project."
Are the other ways to preview .iso content?
The previously burned RW disc appears to be blank. No content at all. I made it using the "burn image" function, so that may have been the problem. But if I can't bring the .iso file into copy/convert I have no clue how to proceed.
I'm starting to panic. Presentation is tomorrow.
Any other ideas?


Yes, you can try and load the .iso into a virtual / emulator drive. This can usually be done in emc 10 by opening the suite and going to the tools section. I actually tried doing this myself in trying to troubleshoot your problem, but ran into problems creating the drive that are apparently peculiar to me. sad.gif

That said, if you read the post I started where I had problems creating the drive, you can hopefully create the emulator drive, load your iso into it and see what is going on.

Please report back, and I hope you can create the virtual drive!



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Posted 25 March 2009 - 05:48 AM

QUOTE (Syrallas @ Mar 25 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, you can try and load the .iso into a virtual / emulator drive. This can usually be done in emc 10 by opening the suite and going to the tools section. I actually tried doing this myself in trying to troubleshoot your problem, but ran into problems creating the drive that are apparently peculiar to me. sad.gif

That said, if you read the post I started where I had problems creating the drive, you can hopefully create the emulator drive, load your iso into it and see what is going on.

Please report back, and I hope you can create the virtual drive!


I did manage to create the virtual drive, load the .iso and see the files. Sadly, the .iso has exactly the same issues as the original burned DVDs. The .vob files are all there, and all read as 0 kb.
Guess I am back to square one. Can you think of any reason why ALL of the files would be copying this way? As I said, I have burned all of these files to DVD in the past. I'm just trying to get them onto the same DVD for presentation purposes, so I don't have to swap DVD's six times in a hour. Baffling.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 09:07 AM

QUOTE (dproxy @ Mar 25 2009, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did manage to create the virtual drive, load the .iso and see the files. Sadly, the .iso has exactly the same issues as the original burned DVDs. The .vob files are all there, and all read as 0 kb.
Guess I am back to square one. Can you think of any reason why ALL of the files would be copying this way? As I said, I have burned all of these files to DVD in the past. I'm just trying to get them onto the same DVD for presentation purposes, so I don't have to swap DVD's six times in a hour. Baffling.



The .iso you currently have is clearly no good. Perhaps an electronic hiccup, perhaps you did it on Friday the 13th, but clearly no sense in spending any more time with that .iso.

You have said that you have "burned DVDs successfully with this same set up before," and that you've "done it with the exact same files."

My only suggestion now would be to re-grab the "good" .vob files from the successfully burned dvds and try starting from scratch. sad.gif

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Congrats on getting that emulator drive to work! wink.gif
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE (Syrallas @ Mar 25 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The .iso you currently have is clearly no good. Perhaps an electronic hiccup, perhaps you did it on Friday the 13th, but clearly no sense in spending any more time with that .iso.

You have said that you have "burned DVDs successfully with this same set up before," and that you've "done it with the exact same files."

My only suggestion now would be to re-grab the "good" .vob files from the successfully burned dvds and try starting from scratch. sad.gif

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Congrats on getting that emulator drive to work! wink.gif


Thanks for all the help. Having failed twice building the DVD from scratch using MyDVD, I decided to try a test using the Express version. I managed to put two movies into the project and burn it successfully to an RW. Then I rebuilt the original project in Express, imported the project into MyDVD so I could select thumbnails and get rid of motion menus, and burned to an RW. Success. I've just completed a burn to a regular DVD and it works.
For what it's worth, I'm working with .avi files in all cases. I rebooted the computer after each failure, but kept having trouble.
There's no way I can explain how any of this happened--not how the problems occurred in the first place nor how they seem to have vanished. But at least I now have a working DVD.
Shouldn't be this hard, but sometimes I guess things just are what they are.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE (dproxy @ Mar 25 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for all the help. Having failed twice building the DVD from scratch using MyDVD, I decided to try a test using the Express version. I managed to put two movies into the project and burn it successfully to an RW. Then I rebuilt the original project in Express, imported the project into MyDVD so I could select thumbnails and get rid of motion menus, and burned to an RW. Success. I've just completed a burn to a regular DVD and it works.
For what it's worth, I'm working with .avi files in all cases. I rebooted the computer after each failure, but kept having trouble.
There's no way I can explain how any of this happened--not how the problems occurred in the first place nor how they seem to have vanished. But at least I now have a working DVD.
Shouldn't be this hard, but sometimes I guess things just are what they are.

Glad you were able to get a workaround! Always make frequent "saves" of your project as you go along -- they take up very little hd space -- and dont modify / delete the source files used in your production.

Now, if only I could get my emulator drive to work. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Add'l HD 1.5TB WD 7K 64M; Videocard: VGA ASUS GTX460; DVD BURNER 1: BLU-RAY BURNER LG; DVD BURNER 2: ASUS DRW-24B3LT; CPU COOL ZALMAN

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Chipset: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430; Memory (RAM): 3 gig;
Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+, 2.800 GHz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)

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