[mrfrog]

Which is better? or do you need both?

Popcorn 2

Toast 7

I have Toast 7, should I get the upgrade to Popcorn 2?

Thanks

[tsantee]

If you use the Fit-to-DVD feature in Toast or use Toast to convert video to various formats such as iPod video then it makes good sense to get Popcorn 2 for those purposes. See Roxio's description of Popcorn 2's features for more info.

[mrfrog]

tsantee, on May 11 2006, 12:39 AM, said:

If you use the Fit-to-DVD feature in Toast or use Toast to convert video to various formats such as iPod video then it makes good sense to get Popcorn 2 for those purposes. See Roxio's description of Popcorn 2's features for more info.

Thanks for the replly, I did read the description of Popcorn 2', it sound great, buy why would you buy
Popcorn 2 if you already have Toast 7? Don't Toast 7 have everything that Popcorn 2 has plus more?
It looks like Popcorn 2 is just a stipdown version of Toast 7. Am I missing somthing? What is
the benefits of having both?

Thanks in the advance for the help.

MrFrog :-)

[tsantee]

mrfrog, on May 11 2006, 10:48 AM, said:

Thanks for the replly, I did read the description of Popcorn 2', it sound great, buy why would you buy
Popcorn 2 if you already have Toast 7? Don't Toast 7 have everything that Popcorn 2 has plus more?
It looks like Popcorn 2 is just a stipdown version of Toast 7. Am I missing somthing? What is
the benefits of having both?

Thanks in the advance for the help.

MrFrog :-)

What matters is what use you have for what it is Popcorn does. As long as Toast meets your needs then don't bother with Popcorn. Personally, the one feature I like best in Popcorn 2 compared with Toast probably matters to few other people. When I want to convert a home-recorded DVD to another format I have to use Toast's Media Browser to extract the MPEG from the DVD before I can start the conversion process. This takes several minutes. Popcorn will do the conversion straight from the non-encrypted DVD and that's a big time saver. I also like how Popcorn gives much more control of what you want to copy from the DVD and how its interface is a little easier to use than Toast. The video preview display is cool for finding which titles you want to export.

I could get by without having Popcorn but not without having Toast 7. Still, Popcorn 2 is sweet and I now use it instead of Toast when I need what Popcorn does.

[patje57]

tsantee, on May 11 2006, 01:24 PM, said:

What matters is what use you have for what it is Popcorn does. As long as Toast meets your needs then don't bother with Popcorn. Personally, the one feature I like best in Popcorn 2 compared with Toast probably matters to few other people. When I want to convert a home-recorded DVD to another format I have to use Toast's Media Browser to extract the MPEG from the DVD before I can start the conversion process. This takes several minutes. Popcorn will do the conversion straight from the non-encrypted DVD and that's a big time saver. I also like how Popcorn gives much more control of what you want to copy from the DVD and how its interface is a little easier to use than Toast. The video preview display is cool for finding which titles you want to export.

I could get by without having Popcorn but not without having Toast 7. Still, Popcorn 2 is sweet and I now use it instead of Toast when I need what Popcorn does.

tsantee, are you paid by Roxio / Sonic? You're so unrealistic positive about Toast while for the rest of us it causes a lot of problems. You know, sense key errors and so...

On Popcorn 2, in my opinion this is finally what Roxio had promised they included in Toast 7 but not fully implemented and now they are milking the cash cow again...

Btw; i use Toast since the pre-Roxio period, take it for granted, 7 is the latest, never had that much problems as with both 6 & 7.

[tsantee]

patje57, on Jun 2 2006, 01:31 PM, said:

tsantee, are you paid by Roxio / Sonic? You're so unrealistic positive about Toast while for the rest of us it causes a lot of problems. You know, sense key errors and so...

On Popcorn 2, in my opinion this is finally what Roxio had promised they included in Toast 7 but not fully implemented and now they are milking the cash cow again...

Btw; i use Toast since the pre-Roxio period, take it for granted, 7 is the latest, never had that much problems as with both 6 & 7.

No I'm not paid. I think I make that obvious in my signature. I'm not sure why you're picking on me.

I've also used Toast since version 3. You say Toast 7 causes a lot of problems "for the rest of us." Then why doesn't it cause those problems (other than known issues) for me? Maybe my G4 iBook and G5 iMac were made better than the others, but I doubt it. I take the position that if it works on my Macs it should work similarly on others. I prefer my positive nature to the alternative which would be that Toast shouldn't be working on my Macs but I'm somehow lucky that it does.

[freshburn]

I have to agree with tsantee. I have Toast running on several Mac's and they all work just fine. Sense Key errors are drive errors, not Toast errors. Toast just displays the error for the drive.

Firmware and cheap media are the key factors in Sense key errors.

[lakewoodlawnman]

I have both Toast 7 and Popcorn 1 & 2. They all work great on my Mini 1.42 GHz PC G4. I have an external Pioneer DVD-RW DVR 110-D (Flashed). I use the best media as in Taiyo Yuden.

I don't work for Roxio and I have had my Mini for only about a year. That is when I came over from the Dark Side.

This post has been edited by lakewoodlawnman: 02 June 2006 - 04:14 PM

[patje57]

lakewoodlawnman, on Jun 2 2006, 04:12 PM, said:

I have both Toast 7 and Popcorn 1 & 2. They all work great on my Mini 1.42 GHz PC G4. I have an external Pioneer DVD-RW DVR 110-D (Flashed). I use the best media as in Taiyo Yuden.

I don't work for Roxio and I have had my Mini for only about a year. That is when I came over from the Dark Side.

welcome to the wonderfull world of the Mac, glad to see that there are others without problems;
and tsantee i didn't want to get personnal / pick you, i'm just so frustrated with Toast / Roxio / Sonic because 1) Roxio / Sonic keeps bombing my email inbox with offers to upgrade to Toast 7 while already a registered user, emailing them doesn't stop the spam flood, so had to but them in the spam filter and
2) Toast itself keeps giving me these sense key errors now while it burned a lot of DVD disks without any problems, i'm using high quality media, didn't change brand, so i suppose the only reason is the writer which is only 4 months old. However the strange thing is that the disk image that causes problems with Toast burns and verifies ok when burned with the finder, DVD Studio Pro burns without any problems too, so i don't understand anymore and
3) after the upgrade to Toast 7 i found out that the Popcorn part was quite limited in his feature set (mainly selections, languages, ...) but ok that's my mistake, should have read the marketing materials more critical...

Besides this Toast works well

This post has been edited by patje57: 03 June 2006 - 02:39 AM

[makip]

I used to use Toast 6 and Popcorn 1. Now that I have purchased Toast 7 i'm still considering Popcorn 2.

I'm trying to work out if it offers better content control of the resulting single-layer DVD than Toast 7. The other thing that is appealing about Popcorn 2 is its batch processing.

Regarding stability / errors in Toast, I have been using Toast since v5 and it has performed well on my G4 PB. I use the internal burner, and also a lacie firewire burner.