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#1 User is offline   Chris Nicola 

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 12:37 PM

I have noted that Video copy and convert can extract a title on a DVD produced with Nero but fails to extract a title on a DVD produced with a Philips DVD recorder. When I select the title and click OK the new title to be copied does not appear on the left hand pane although the DVD project size indicator works. When I click burn the programme starts to do something but does not proceed. It does not crash but initialises with the window preparing to copy which then disappears and then does nothing. The video compilation is from a home movie disc (non copyrighted).

Any suggestions would be welcome.

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 12:55 PM

DVD Recorders can be a challenge… If it can use ‘plus’ RW media your problems should disappear.

If not, make sure you have Finalized or Closed it in the Recorder.

DVD-RAM media can get even more interesting…

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 11:30 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Jim. The Philips DVD recorder only records to DVD +R by default. The DVD is finalised. For come reason EMC 10 tries to extract the title but doesn't go all the way. Even if I try to output to an image file nothing happens. The problem seems to be that the extraction is not fully recognised.

If there is anything else youthink I might try please let me know.

My only option I think is to play the DVD on one recorder and with an analogue output re record the DVD on another. Using the EMC video extraction and film editor cas caused a loss of sound syncronisation when I have used it in the past.

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 05:01 AM

Make sure it uses Video mode for recording and not VR… VR fragments and nothing seems to understand the file structure then.

You could try Philips to see why their discs are in a non-standard format.

Might help if you examine a disc in Explorer and tell us what it on it??? VR disc structure looks like this:

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 12:40 PM

I checked the contents of the Philips recorded DVD +R. The recorder only records on DVD +R or +RW with variable compression (2 hour/2.5 hour, 3 hour, 4 hour or 8 hour). Each of the three titles has the same compression (2 hour). I also tried to extract the specific title I wanted to my hard drive using EMC Videowave capture but that also failed as it only captured the first 4.5 minute chapter of the title and then stopped. I think if I had succeeded there video copy and convert would have been able to read the captured Title on my hard drive and succeeded in making the DVD. Video copy and convert previously failed to extract the title from the DVD disk.

I think its a "standard DVD file structure (please see below).

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 02:03 PM

It is ‘standard’ but only for a VR disc…

Did you check for Finalizing or Closing on the Recorder?

A couple of things you my try… copying the VIDEO_TS folder to your PC and working from there.

Copying the xxxx.VOB files your HD and rename them from VOB to mpg.

I still fear that the fragmenting is going to leave you short. A huge file but only 5 minutes of play.

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 12:23 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Jim. Yes the DVD +R recorded on the Philips recorder was finalised. In the meantime I just played the DVD on one machine and recorded the specific title I wanted analogue onto another DVD recorder to get the project finished on time.

I appreciate your suggestion below and will try it next time I wish to do a similar task. In the meantime the laser on the Philips DVD recorder fried and its unrepairable so I got another DVD recorder cheap which only does DVD -R and DVD RAM so I should have some fun using Roxio to extract one title with that system!

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A couple of things you my try… copying the VIDEO_TS folder to your PC and working from there.

Copying the xxxx.VOB files your HD and rename them from VOB to mpg.

I still fear that the fragmenting is going to leave you short. A huge file but only 5 minutes of play.


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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:07 AM

The RAM is interesting to play with but on mine I can only import from the disc. If I copy to HD it will not import.

You should be able to work with the ‘dash’ media, just make sure you Close or Finalize within the Recorder first.

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 05:35 AM

Its an older Panasonic DVD recorder DMR-E85H with an 80 Gbt HD and records on DVD RAM and DVD -R only. I will see how I get on.

Thanks for sharing the information below. On my computer I have a Samsung DVD RW lightscribe so hopefully it will be able to read the DVD RAM disk.

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QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ May 7 2009, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The RAM is interesting to play with but on mine I can only import from the disc. If I copy to HD it will not import.

You should be able to work with the ‘dash’ media, just make sure you Close or Finalize within the Recorder first.


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Posted 09 May 2009 - 02:59 PM

QUOTE (Chris Nicola @ May 9 2009, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its an older Panasonic DVD recorder DMR-E85H with an 80 Gbt HD and records on DVD RAM and DVD -R only. I will see how I get on.

Thanks for sharing the information below. On my computer I have a Samsung DVD RW lightscribe so hopefully it will be able to read the DVD RAM disk.

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Chris

From the Home app – Tools – Disc Info

It will tell what media your drive can Read and Write to.

Oh – you cannot make a DVD Movie on DVD-RAM media with MyDVD.

Import = Yes
Write Data = Yes

Movie = NO!

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