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#1 rickwolfe

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:49 AM

dry.gif I capture video from my cameras (VHS, Hi8 and mini-DV as composite video into the Hauppage card in my HP computer. That always works fine and I can produce a fairly High Quality video. I call that raw video. From there I use Video Wave to edit the raw videos. I  initially manually start and stop the edit (to remove the 'blue screen' at he beginning and end of the video input). If I do that, I can either burn  the raw video to DVD, as is or try to edit it. Each time I use the the scene detector (it see a new scene sometimes as often as once per second, even with the sensitivity set at 0.01 or 50% - it doesn't matter what setting I use - this is a total disaster as it "see many scenes per minute on anything and always breaks up the sound track). My new problem starts when I try to cut out pieces of the video file (like removing a scene). I get one section done, save the movie file and later I try to build on it. I end up crashing my computer. Is there a way to take the digitized raw video, convert it into manageable pieces with no sound lapses, and then edit the pieces that I select and retain the audio/video relationship in sync?
Am I usng the program (video wave) correctly? or should I be doing something different?. I am ready to try a new program, as this one is just becoming more irritating and frustrating. Spend all day making a single video and then lose it when the computer crashes.
Thanks if you have a solution, OTW am I the only one having this kind of problem??

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (rickwolfe @ May 10 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dry.gif I capture video from my cameras (VHS, Hi8 and mini-DV as composite video into the Hauppage card in my HP computer. That always works fine and I can produce a fairly High Quality video. I call that raw video. From there I use Video Wave to edit the raw videos. I  initially manually start and stop the edit (to remove the 'blue screen' at he beginning and end of the video input). If I do that, I can either burn  the raw video to DVD, as is or try to edit it.

Each time I use the the scene detector (it see a new scene sometimes as often as once per second, even with the sensitivity set at 0.01 or 50% - it doesn't matter what setting I use - this is a total disaster as it "see many scenes per minute on anything and always breaks up the sound track). My new problem starts when I try to cut out pieces of the video file (like removing a scene). I get one section done, save the movie file and later I try to build on it. I end up crashing my computer. Is there a way to take the digitized raw video, convert it into manageable pieces with no sound lapses, and then edit the pieces that I select and retain the audio/video relationship in sync?

Am I usng the program (video wave) correctly? or should I be doing something different?. I am ready to try a new program, as this one is just becoming more irritating and frustrating. Spend all day making a single video and then lose it when the computer crashes.
Thanks if you have a solution, OTW am I the only one having this kind of problem??


NROTWBYSNUAITF.

The miniDV should be captured via firwire.

You should be using VideoWave, but forget the Scene Detection, and do it the way you have done it, in the first paragraph, above.  Don't mess with what has been successful for ou.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE (grandpabruce @ May 10 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NROTWBYSNUAITF.

The miniDV should be captured via firwire.

You should be using VideoWave, but forget the Scene Detection, and do it the way you have done it, in the first paragraph, above.  Don't mess with what has been successful for ou.


Hi NROTWBYSNUAITF, (is that something like BOHICA? - from my Army days)
I am listening to your comments, I am trying to wean myself from using the "scene detection", and I do end up with a full length video (without the blue screen at the beginning or end) but I cannot edit any part of the video (no scenes are available) except to remove more of the beginning or end - no edits allowed in the middle. The "scene detection" method at least allowed me to clip out what I did not want. I was hoping to find some method that I can edit the video from video wave, and so far, I am still lost.
My two hour mini DV videos are now cut down to 1 hour 59 minutes and 50 seconds, and they are recorded at less than HQ as the DVD only records HQ for a video of about 1 hour or a bit more.  
I came up with another problem and find that after Scene detection" I find that I can't drag any of the scenes into the time line. Any advice? Thanks in advance.
PS I do use a firewire connection on the miniDV camera.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:08 PM

QUOTE (rickwolfe @ May 22 2009, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi NROTWBYSNUAITF, (is that something like BOHICA? - from my Army days)
I am listening to your comments, I am trying to wean myself from using the "scene detection", and I do end up with a full length video (without the blue screen at the beginning or end) but I cannot edit any part of the video (no scenes are available) except to remove more of the beginning or end - no edits allowed in the middle. The "scene detection" method at least allowed me to clip out what I did not want. I was hoping to find some method that I can edit the video from video wave, and so far, I am still lost.
My two hour mini DV videos are now cut down to 1 hour 59 minutes and 50 seconds, and they are recorded at less than HQ as the DVD only records HQ for a video of about 1 hour or a bit more.  
I came up with another problem and find that after Scene detection" I find that I can't drag any of the scenes into the time line. Any advice? Thanks in advance.
PS I do use a firewire connection on the miniDV camera.



In VideoWave, click on the Timeline tab.  Then move your cursor over that blue, upside down triangle with a vertical line, just above your video.  Move it until you see the double arrow, then slide it to the beginning point that you want to cut out.  (You can move around faster, if you move the blue triange, and line, in the Preview screen above.)

Click on the left/right, triangle icon (3rd icon from left of the Internal Track button), at the top of the Production Editor screen.  This will split it from the beginning portion of your movie.  Now move to the end of the portion that you want to cut out, and do the same thing.  (You can also do the splitting by right clicking on the timeline, above your movie, and selecting Split.)

Once you have made your split points, highlight the portion between the splits, and hit your delete button.  Poof, it is gone.  Repeat as necessary.

None of what you do, edits your original movie file, so if you make a mistake, no harm is done.  Be sure that you save, and save often, so if you do make a mistake, you can either hit the undo many times, or close out of VideoWave, without saving, and open VideoWave, and the file, again.
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Main System:
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Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866
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