What Version Of Lame Is Used In Roxio 8 And How Do I get vbr
#1
Posted 11 May 2009 - 02:37 PM
when I convert cd to mp3 and choose vbr it stays pretty close to whatever kpbs I select but other mp3s I have
go from 320 to 192 to 320, etc how do you do that?
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#2
Posted 11 May 2009 - 03:19 PM
when I convert cd to mp3 and choose vbr it stays pretty close to whatever kpbs I select but other mp3s I have
go from 320 to 192 to 320, etc how do you do that?
Don't know, I don't have version 8 installed anymore.
For what you want I would suggest the FREE application EAC, Exact Audio Copy... http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
You use whatever version of Lame you want...good stuff and free..
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#3
Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:42 PM
For what you want I would suggest the FREE application EAC, Exact Audio Copy... http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
You use whatever version of Lame you want...good stuff and free..
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how do I get the larger vbr range?
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#4
Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:20 AM
Here is a rip from EAC set to 192 VBR bitrate, it shows the different bitrates from the wav rip to MP3 conversion.

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1.Click here Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB) CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)
13.Click here Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5, 8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <> Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
#5
Posted 12 May 2009 - 11:08 AM
Here is a rip from EAC set to 192 VBR bitrate, it shows the different bitrates from the wav rip to MP3 conversion.

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No I am talking about the MP3 encoder in ROxio
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#6
Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:06 PM
Version 3.96.1 in my EMC 8.
Have a look in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\SharedCom\Lame and you should see the .TAR in there.
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#7
Posted 12 May 2009 - 05:47 PM
Have a look in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\SharedCom\Lame and you should see the .TAR in there.
any idea why the vbr range is off?
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#8
Posted 12 May 2009 - 06:41 PM
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#9
Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:56 AM
VBR compression is "variable"
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to accomplish.
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#10
Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:02 AM
VBR compression is "variable"
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to accomplish.
Variable Bitrate Compression, Benefits...
LAME's default VBR method tests the actual output quality to ensure the desired quality level is always achieved.
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1.Click here Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB) CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)
13.Click here Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5, 8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <> Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
#11
Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:24 AM
LAME's default VBR method tests the actual output quality to ensure the desired quality level is always achieved.
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Well, duh ! That is not what I asked. I knew that much
I asked the poster what the OP hoped to achieve by using mp3 VBR. If space (file size) is the only thing then I'll accept that. If overall quality, I may not accept that.
If the op just wants compressed music to put on a mp3 player, and the player supports wma and or AAC, then I believe that the general consensus (per other forums) is that at the same bit rate, wma is superior to mp3. It may also be true that wma at a much lower bit rate is better than a mp3 compressed file. Of course a lot of players will accept AAC which is supposed to be better than both.
To tell you the truth, I have a ZEN that will take all three (I haven't tried AAC) but I can't really tell the difference with mp3 VBR and wma. I don't know if EMC 8 will make an AAC file.
By the way Batch Convert and Transfer in Creator 2009 works great. (I know the thread is in EMC 8 but the Op may want to update.)
This post has been edited by sknis: 13 May 2009 - 07:27 AM
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#12
Posted 13 May 2009 - 08:17 AM
if you use LAME with EAC the VBR works.
Do I need to do something with the TAR file maybe?
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#13
Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:12 AM
if you use LAME with EAC the VBR works.
Do I need to do something with the TAR file maybe?
Question 1. How do you know they aren't?
Download and install the free EncSpot 2.0 build 817, here....
It is a MP3 Analyzer, under options settings, click the columns tab, click the + next to general , put a check mark in VBR box....
Now from the left window navigate to a Roxio encoded MP3 file, click it and it will load in the right window, look at the VBR column....
Question 2. Yes.
Question 3. Don't have a clue what your talking about.

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This post has been edited by cdanteek: 13 May 2009 - 11:58 AM
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1.Click here Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB) CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)
13.Click here Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5, 8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <> Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
#14
Posted 21 May 2009 - 10:06 AM
Download and install the free EncSpot 2.0 build 817, here....
It is a MP3 Analyzer, under options settings, click the columns tab, click the + next to general , put a check mark in VBR box....
Now from the left window navigate to a Roxio encoded MP3 file, click it and it will load in the right window, look at the VBR column....
Question 2. Yes.
Question 3. Don't have a clue what your talking about.

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when using winamp it shows the file and the Bitrate I ripped a cd with 2009 and it works great just wondering if version 8 has known VBR issues
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#15
Posted 21 May 2009 - 03:15 PM
BENQ DW1640, in XP Pro and Windows 7
I blame it all on Global Warming / Global Cooling / Global Staying the Same [pick one]
#16
Posted 29 May 2009 - 07:36 PM
can you add an encoder?
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#17
Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:39 AM
BENQ DW1640, in XP Pro and Windows 7
I blame it all on Global Warming / Global Cooling / Global Staying the Same [pick one]

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