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Is There A Way To Remove Or Move A Split I Put In The Wrong Place In Timeline View?

#1 User is offline   Raemur 

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 06:22 AM

I'm using splits for putting transitions where I turned my video camera on and off during the tape. I put the split in the wrong place. Is there a way to remove the errored split or move it a few frames?

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 06:33 AM

QUOTE (Raemur @ May 12 2009, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm using splits for putting transitions where I turned my video camera on and off during the tape. I put the split in the wrong place. Is there a way to remove the errored split or move it a few frames?

Thanks!


Remove whatever is between the splits and the program will act like they are not even there. Put in the new split where you want it --10 frames from the original split is the minimum where you can put in a new split. Remember that the original video is never altered unless you overwrite it so you can start from scratch.

Next time just do several undo's until you get rid of the split.
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 06:48 AM

I tried removing what the split was near but when I try to repaste it, it puts it at the end of the video instead of where it was. Unfortunately, I was way past the undo stage before I figured out they were in the wrong place. I can start over, but I was trying not to. Most of the video is correct, only a few spits at the end...of course.
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 09:03 AM

QUOTE (Raemur @ May 12 2009, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tried removing what the split was near but when I try to repaste it, it puts it at the end of the video instead of where it was. Unfortunately, I was way past the undo stage before I figured out they were in the wrong place. I can start over, but I was trying not to. Most of the video is correct, only a few spits at the end...of course.


How did you try to remove the split? Why just not follow what I suggested re: removing the transition or whatever is between the split and then adding a new split 10 frames away?

Perhaps we are not talking about the same thing when you and I talk about a split. To me, a split is a point in a video file when you have selected a split point. One usually adds a split point or two to add a transition, or to add an effect to a portion of the video. Are you talking about a split a portion of the video here you have placed a split at both ends?

Switch to storyline view to add a portion of the video at a particular place.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:37 AM

Perhaps I don't have my terms right. I meant the place in the video where I put the break, not the video itself but the spot where the transition goes. When I am in timeline view in Videowave, I hit the "split the selected item" button and it puts a "space" in the video (from a storyline perspective) so I can put a dissolve going from the end of one time I had the video camera on to the time I turned it back on. I have two scenarios I'm having trouble with.

One, if I hit the button in the wrong place (and can no longer "undo" it) is there a way to move the "break" in the video where my transition will go or delete it and add another.

Secondly, I have two spots in the video where I want to put a transition but for some reason it jumps off a frame from where I have it when I hit the "split the selected item" button.

The only editing I am wanting to do is add a few dissolve transitions where I turned the camera off and on again. It seems pretty simple but I'm having quite a bit of trouble with it.

This post has been edited by Raemur: 14 May 2009 - 06:38 AM

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 07:45 AM

QUOTE (Raemur @ May 14 2009, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps I don't have my terms right. I meant the place in the video where I put the break, not the video itself but the spot where the transition goes. When I am in timeline view in Videowave, I hit the "split the selected item" button and it puts a "space" in the video (from a storyline perspective) so I can put a dissolve going from the end of one time I had the video camera on to the time I turned it back on. I have two scenarios I'm having trouble with.

One, if I hit the button in the wrong place (and can no longer "undo" it) is there a way to move the "break" in the video where my transition will go or delete it and add another.

Secondly, I have two spots in the video where I want to put a transition but for some reason it jumps off a frame from where I have it when I hit the "split the selected item" button.

The only editing I am wanting to do is add a few dissolve transitions where I turned the camera off and on again. It seems pretty simple but I'm having quite a bit of trouble with it.



After doing a split, you should be able to "undo" it as long as you are still in the same editing session. Once you save your project and close VW, the next time you open your project, you cannot undo the splits. If you added transitions at split points, they can of course be removed at any time in the project file.

Having the split point jump a frame or two means nothing since those frames will disappear anyway when you add a transition.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:23 AM

Thank you so much! I thought the frame jump would mess it all up but of course, it looks fine just as you say. These programs sure are prickly. Thanks for your help!
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 07:56 AM

QUOTE (Raemur @ May 15 2009, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you so much! I thought the frame jump would mess it all up but of course, it looks fine just as you say. These programs sure are prickly. Thanks for your help!


FYI, in a NTSC video system one second contains about 29 frames, so that if the split is off by a couple of frames, you will hardly notice if at all.

Any frame mis-alignment also gets lost when you add a transition at a split point. Consider a 30 sec video clip. Suppose you make a split exactly at the 15 second mark; you now have two segments each 15 seconds long. Now add a 4 second transition between the two segments. The resulting video clip then is not 34 seconds long but actually "shrinks" to be only 28 seconds long. This happens because the 2nd clip gets overlaid onto the first clip so that the 2nd clip start at the 13 second mark of the 1st clip. The transition starts at the 13 second point and lasts for 4 seconds.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:50 AM

Of course, you are totally right, thanks for the explanation. This seems like it should be simple but it's not intuitive sometimes. I am very thankful for the help on these boards!
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