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#1 Milo

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 01:31 AM

Hi all,

I'm using Easy Media Creator 10. I capture video from my Sony DV camcorder in AVI DV format. After editing, adding transitions, menus, chapters I burn it at 4X speed.

The end result is a jerky (jittery, choppy - how else can I describe it?) playback on PC as well as on TV via DVD player.

"Jerkyness" is very noticable when the picture is panning accross or zooming. Sound seems OK, but the picture is not. It never stalls or slows down, it's just jerky. Tried capturing in MPEG2, but the result is same.

Is there some setting to be adjusted or another way of recording I should be using, please?

Could somebody PLEASE help here, as I have about 70 DV tapes to convert into DVD format?


Thank YOU for your time

Milo

Edited by Milo, 16 May 2009 - 03:28 AM.


#2 Jim_Hardin

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 04:31 AM

Most likely it is your video card. In MyDVD or VideoWave, Tool – Options – Render, set it to Software.

Do a test burn on RW media and see how it comes out.

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ May 16 2009, 05:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most likely it is your video card. In MyDVD or VideoWave, Tool – Options – Render, set it to Software.

Do a test burn on RW media and see how it comes out.




Thanks for responding, Jim.

That setting is already "software"

Thanks

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 02:36 PM

QUOTE (Milo @ May 16 2009, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for responding, Jim.

That setting is already "software"

Thanks

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List your system specs, similar to how I have mine listed in my signature.

And, you don't want to capture your DV tapes as mpeg2.  You do want to capture as DV-AVI.  You will need a huge hard drive, if you have 70 tapes to capture.

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 01:22 AM

QUOTE (grandpabruce @ May 16 2009, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
List your system specs, similar to how I have mine listed in my signature.

And, you don't want to capture your DV tapes as mpeg2.  You do want to capture as DV-AVI.  You will need a huge hard drive, if you have 70 tapes to capture.



Yep, I will capture in DV-AVI format. When I run out of space on my hard drive, I will offload the ISO files to the external hard drive.

My PC's specifications are:

CPU: Intel E2160 Core 2 Duo (1.8GHz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte 945GZM-S2
RAM: Kingston 1GB 667 DDR2 (2x512M)
DVD Burner: Pioneer SATA 212D  DL
Video card: On motherboard - Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
Sound card: On motherboard
HDD: 250GB SATA W.D.
Windows XP Pro SP2

Thanks!

Edited by Milo, 17 May 2009 - 01:42 AM.


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Posted 17 May 2009 - 02:51 AM

QUOTE (Milo @ May 17 2009, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, I will capture in DV-AVI format. When I run out of space on my hard drive, I will offload the ISO files to the external hard drive.

My PC's specifications are:

CPU: Intel E2160 Core 2 Duo (1.8GHz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte 945GZM-S2
RAM: Kingston 1GB 667 DDR2 (2x512M)
DVD Burner: Pioneer SATA 212D  DL
Video card: On motherboard - Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
Sound card: On motherboard
HDD: 250GB SATA W.D.
Windows XP Pro SP2

Thanks!

I am surprised it even runs on your PC without a graphics card…

While they minimum you need is about $30 I would like to run a test or 2 to make sure.

Take a short busy scene, one you know comes out bad and delete all else. (do this in MyDVD – Edit Movie and Save As Test1. this way your original is never touched)

Use an RW and burn it with Render set at Hardware (assuming it will) and then do another set at software.

What do they look like when you play them on a Player???

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ May 17 2009, 03:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am surprised it even runs on your PC without a graphics card…

While they minimum you need is about $30 I would like to run a test or 2 to make sure.

Take a short busy scene, one you know comes out bad and delete all else. (do this in MyDVD – Edit Movie and Save As Test1. this way your original is never touched)

Use an RW and burn it with Render set at Hardware (assuming it will) and then do another set at software.

What do they look like when you play them on a Player???



Hi,

Just tried burning two copies.
One with render set via hardware and one via software.
The hardware one is maybe a bit worse than the software one.
The hardware one took a lot longer to render  than the software one.

Any thoughts?

One more thing: the motherboard is: Gigabyte GA-VM800PMC
with integrated video card called: Integrated UniChrome™ Pro Graphic Engine


Thanks

Milo

Edited by Milo, 18 May 2009 - 12:14 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2009 - 02:58 AM

QUOTE (Milo @ May 17 2009, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

Just tried burning two copies.
One with render set via hardware and one via software.
The hardware one is maybe a bit worse than the software one.
The hardware one took a lot longer to render  than the software one.

Any thoughts?

One more thing: the motherboard is: Gigabyte GA-VM800PMC
with integrated video card called: Integrated UniChrome™ Pro Graphic Engine


Thanks

Milo

Start shopping around for a Video Card – must fully support DirectX 9.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 03:57 AM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ May 18 2009, 03:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Start shopping around for a Video Card – must fully support DirectX 9.



Thanks for the response, Jim.

I will most definitely get a video card. Maybe even double the RAM to 2GB.

I was thinking of getting a video card with 512MB of memory. Any card I look at
(for example, Gigabyte: GV-N94T-512H) says they support DirectX 10.
That would be suitable, ha?


Many thanks

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 12:24 AM


Installed a 512MB video card. Tried capturing with "hardware" and "software" option.
I noticed that the rendering process is about 25% quicker with "hardware" option unlike
prior to video card installation where it was 25% SLOWER.

All in all, there is NO difference compared to results before the video card installation.
I still get the jerky picture.

Thanks

Milo

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 02:54 AM

QUOTE (Milo @ May 20 2009, 04:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Installed a 512MB video card. Tried capturing with "hardware" and "software" option.
I noticed that the rendering process is about 25% quicker with "hardware" option unlike
prior to video card installation where it was 25% SLOWER.

All in all, there is NO difference compared to results before the video card installation.
I still get the jerky picture.

Thanks

Milo

Capture has absolutely NOTHING to do with it.

It is when you Render the file. That is the part where you noticed time differences.

Now one thing that can produce a bad source file during capture is a fragmented HD… Try defragging your HD then capture a short portion with action on it and process it through to a DVD and see what it plays like.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:54 AM

If you just play back the captured video on your PC, prior to any rendering or editing, does it play back smoothly?

Edited by d_deweywright, 20 May 2009 - 04:54 AM.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:36 PM


A few weeks ago I decided to covert all my DV tapes onto DVDs. To eliminate any possibility of system problems
and to make things "cleaner", I formatted my hard drive and installed only the essential stuff + Roxio EMC10.


The captured file prior to rendering is smooth, but it's 3 times bigger in size.



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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE (Milo @ May 20 2009, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A few weeks ago I decided to covert all my DV tapes onto DVDs. To eliminate any possibility of system problems
and to make things "cleaner", I formatted my hard drive and installed only the essential stuff + Roxio EMC10.


The captured file prior to rendering is smooth, but it's 3 times bigger in size.

I understand that it's much bigger, I only wanted to know if it plays back smoothly.  And as you say you reformatted and did a clean install of everything, then a fragmented HD shouldn't be an issue here.
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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (Milo @ May 20 2009, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A few weeks ago I decided to covert all my DV tapes onto DVDs. To eliminate any possibility of system problems
and to make things "cleaner", I formatted my hard drive and installed only the essential stuff + Roxio EMC10.


The captured file prior to rendering is smooth, but it's 3 times bigger in size.


What settings are you using when burning your DVD? Fit-to-disc, SP, LP, or HQ?

I may have missed it but have tried burning to a Video_TS folder and playing that through a software player on your system?

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 07:07 PM

Have you read the articles for "jerky" here? Select your product then type in the word "jerky" and read those articles. They may help.

http://www.roxio.com/enu/support/default.html

The Creator 10 update may also help.

http://www.roxio.com/enu/support/emc10/software_updates.html

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 03:41 AM

QUOTE (Big_Dave @ May 20 2009, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you read the articles for "jerky" here? Select your product then type in the word "jerky" and read those articles. They may help.

http://www.roxio.com/enu/support/default.html

The Creator 10 update may also help.

http://www.roxio.com/enu/support/emc10/software_updates.html



Hi all,

IT WORKS!!!!!  No more jerky picture!!!

As per Big Dave's suggestion, I downloaded the update and now it's all OK. I'm so happy, guys!

I would like to thank EVERYBODY here for their valuable opinions and patience with my problems.

Now, I have to inform some forum people here about the fix (people that I have sent a message to
asking about their experiences with the same problem)


Once again, THANKS!!!

Milo




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