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[Tvjohn]

I'd say from his position description, Danny fits the description of professional. My defination would be "anyone who derives most or all or their income from use of the the software.

Funny, perusing the Pinnacle Studio forums, people are constantly flipping graphics cards in and out, debating whether or not to install an OS release candidate, etc.

Can you imagine a taxi cab driver tinkering with his engine Sunday night installing non oem parts which may or may not work better?

"Hey boss, I have to replace my engine, a piece of one of these newfangled sparkplugs broke off and cracked a piston."

Edited by Tvjohn, 13 September 2009 - 05:12 PM.

[drbgaijin]

I'd say from his position description, Danny fits the description of professional. My defination would be "anyone who derives most or all or their income from use of the the software.

Funny, perusing the Pinnacle Studio forums, people are constantly flipping graphics cards in and out, debating whether or not to install an OS release candidate, etc.

Can you imagine a taxi cab driver tinkering with his engine Sunday night installing non oem parts which may or may not work better?

"Hey boss, I have to replace my engine, a piece of one of these newfangled sparkplugs broke off and cracked a piston."

Good points, John

I would also add to my definition of professional that "professional" implies, not only the money involved, but a certain high standard of quality.
That does not mean that consumers cannot produce a high standard of quality. Sometimes they can produce very high quality.
So "professional" can also be used like this: When I saw the result of his editing I was surprised at the professional quality of his technique"

By the way, as you mentioned Pinnacle, I think it would be correct to say the following:

Pinnacle is related to Avid in the same way that Roxio is related to Sonic.
Liquid is the high-end of the Pinnacle group and DVDitProHD is the high-end of the Roxio Group.
Avid and Sonic have their own professional tools, that have been around a long time before either Pinnacle or Roxio were acquired.

Regards,
Douglas

[mjolnarn]

When I mentioned it on the Avid Forum on the 5th (just over a week ago) Mjolnarn brushed it off as being pretty much useless because of the price and its specifications as to OS etc.
He doesn't seem to know that professionals who edit for a living tend to use OS's etc. that are stable and proven.

Copied and pasted from the Avid forum, just to refresh Douglas memory, pretty much like what I have said on this forum I believe.

Reading the specs and demands for this new app, it seems only to be working with XP SP3, Vista is not mentioned and might not work as DX 9 is especially mentioned, also notice the minimum screen resolution.

Windows® XP Professional, Service Pack 3, 32-bit
Microsoft Direct X 9.0c
Microsoft Windows Media Player 10 or later
Apple QuickTime 7 or later
3GHz processor (multi-core processor recommended)
Monitor with minimum 1600x1200 screen resolution (1920x1200 recommended) and 32-bit color support

Edited..  And no BD avchd output, only Mpeg 2 and VC1

Danny, to get back to the subject, how about BD popup menus, transitions between menus and other stuff, did you see anything about that, I suppose that when you are saying " it isn´t worse it " that you mean " it isn´t worth it " and that would mean that you don´t think that it is worth the cost for it, is that correct?

[drbgaijin]

Tomas,
I have a certain respect for you and people like you who enjoy pushing the limits and testing all the new stuff that is thrown at us by computer developers.
But your pioneering world and the world of serious bread and butter computer use are 2 very different worlds.

The fact that the new offering from Sonic is "certified" for these much older specs that are in today, shows me that it is designed for the professsional who probably has invested millions in setting up and maintaining a studio.

The professional may have a machine on the side where he can tinker and experiment, but for the most I should think they are too busy with the real world of creative wditing that they have little or no time for that.


By the way, I am surprised that after I posted a link to some of my projects - when you said you couldn't judge my abilities as you had not seen very many - you have not yet visited that page to check out my work.
I have had visits from Germany, Belgium, Holland, UK, USA but none from Sweden.

Also I take it that as you have not had the courtesy to provide any link to your work that you have nothing to offer.

Until I have seen some of your editing abilities, I am unable to assess your skill level in editing.
So I draw a line here.  If the need arises I will respond to you, but I hope it will not be necessary.
Back to reality for me.....................

Regards,
Douglas

[danny]

Danny, to get back to the subject, how about BD popup menus, transitions between menus and other stuff, did you see anything about that, I suppose that when you are saying " it isn´t worse it " that you mean " it isn´t worth it " and that would mean that you don´t think that it is worth the cost for it, is that correct?

hi,
your absolutly right! I wouldn´t spend any money on this bundle - because it is just 2 more application. there are no changes on DVDitHD. no popups, no transitions. transitions beetween titles are DVD-styled things that you wont use for professional BDs, because of it´s popup-menus. it´s a complete different way of creating menus and titles and their connections.

you need to think different (yes, I´m a mac-user )

cheers
danny

Edited by danny, 14 September 2009 - 12:25 PM.

[mjolnarn]

hi,
your absolutly right! I wouldn´t spend any money on this bundle - because it is just 2 more application. there are no changes on DVDitHD. no popups, no transitions. transitions beetween titles are DVD-styled things that you wont use for professional BDs, because of it´s popup-menus. it´s a complete different way of creating menus and titles and their connections.

you need to think different (yes, I´m a mac-user )

cheers
danny

Thanks a lot for telling Danny, guess I will have to stick with my 100 dollar app for now to create popups, works well with preencoded files and the customers like the result, I like the price of it  

[drbgaijin]

I just attended a Webinar with Sonic)\(UK) and watched a presentation of Sonic BD Powerstation.

For those wondering about the future of DVDitProHD I was told that the DVDitProHD included in Sonic BDPS is a newer version than the 6.4 most of us have here.
I also heard that the newer version will be made available to present owners of DVDitHDPro. Upgrade? Update? Free? Fee? I don:t know
I have no idea when this will happen, and I have no information about what is changed in the newer version.

What was most impressive was the Cinevision encoder that is included in the Sonic BDPS, as well as the Quality Control programme.

Regards,
Douglas

[NBK]

I just attended a Webinar with Sonic)\(UK) and watched a presentation of Sonic BD Powerstation.

For those wondering about the future of DVDitProHD I was told that the DVDitProHD included in Sonic BDPS is a newer version than the 6.4 most of us have here.
I also heard that the newer version will be made available to present owners of DVDitHDPro. Upgrade? Update? Free? Fee? I don:t know
I have no idea when this will happen, and I have no information about what is changed in the newer version.

What was most impressive was the Cinevision encoder that is included in the Sonic BDPS, as well as the Quality Control programme.

Regards,
Douglas

Hi Douglas,

What is Sonic BDPS?

Thanks
NBK

[danny]

BDPS= Blu-ray Disk Power Station!

= bundled DVDitHD6.4, sonic QC and Cinevison Encoder MPEG2!!

not worth the price!

danny

[NBK]

BDPS= Blu-ray Disk Power Station!

= bundled DVDitHD6.4, sonic QC and Cinevison Encoder MPEG2!!

not worth the price!

danny

thanks danny,

I will not buy either!  I am moving onto the Macintosh platform...

NBK

[danny]

there will be a good working mac-solution in future - that´s what I can tell. I don´t know exactly when. but you should have an eye on this:

http://blustreak.dvdafteredit.com/

cheers

danny

PS: right now there is a solution for creating BDCMF for replication out of BDMV, for example from encore-output. just have a look

[drbgaijin]

BDPS= Blu-ray Disk Power Station!

= bundled DVDitHD6.4, sonic QC and Cinevison Encoder MPEG2!!
not worth the price!

danny

Not True!

It is a newer version of DVDitHDPro than 6.4!!   As I mentioned in my post.

The Cinevision Encoder is for MPEG2 and VC-1 (Advanced Profile levels 2 and 3).  
The Cinevision encoder justifies the price alone.
One of the interesting features there is "Segment re-encoding", where you can selectively re-encode any part of the after chosing a new bitrate and quantisation!

As I said previously - to be shot down by Mjolnarn -  it is a PROFESSIONAL suite.

By the way, in reponse to Mjolnarns complaint about the specifications for the BDPS suite - The Specifications are MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS not, as he tried to twist things to, only approved requirements.

After everyone has finished complaining about my mention of BDPS, you will all stand to benefit when the new version of DVDitProHD is released - sometime in the future.

Regards,
Douglas

[Tvjohn]

Sounds interesting. Having the option to use vc-1 as well as mpeg2 for BD should make for some curious comparisons.

[drbgaijin]

Sounds interesting. Having the option to use vc-1 as well as mpeg2 for BD should make for some curious comparisons.

John, the Cinevision version with the suite is the "light" version.
For a fee there is also an AVC codec available.

But the big hinder is the price, of course.

Regards,
Douglas

[westsidebill]

I have been "happily" using DVDit Pro HD 6.3 on a Windows XP machine for several years.  I just purchased a new i7 based machine running Vista 64-bit (soon to be upgraded to Windows 7) and when I installed it on the new machine, it killed my optical drives.  I've seen the issue mentioned in other threads and haven't seen a good resolution.  My question is, how can I get my hands on the 6.4 version that has been mentioned several times.  I've opened tickets with Roxio support on the issue and no one has mentioned a ver 6.4.  Any assistance would be appreciated...as well as any insight into its use on Vista and/or Windows 7.

Edited by westsidebill, 02 October 2009 - 03:33 PM.

[jbandy1]

I have heard rumors of a New DVDit HD as well.  It worried me that you say that it might be abandoned software.  I have been using Adobe Encore CS4 but have been having multiple issues with Blu-ray authoring.  I was looking into getting DVDit HD.  We use Premiere Pro to edit on Windows Vista 64 machines.  Using h.264 files  720p 59.94fps. Audio PCM 48khz 16bit.

I need to be able to create blu-rays with several assets using different timelines that plays from start to finish and enable the user to skip back and forth between assets using their next and previous buttons.  Can anyone confirm that this is possible in the current version of DVDit pro hd?

[clifsims]

Hi

Anyone heard any rumors about a new version of DVDit beyond 6.4?

Thanks
NBK

Yes. I purchased it from Amazon, Last week.

clifsims

[Emulgator]

clifsims, would you mind sharing your version info?
Mine is 6.4 641B03A

[drbgaijin]

clifsims, would you mind sharing your version info?
Mine is 6.4 641B03A

The latest version of DVDitProHD is 6.4.2  641B68A
This version is supplied with Sonic BD Powerstation, and is not yet available as a stand-alone version. (as far as I know)

But don't get excited or angry...... there is only 1 major change in the application compared to the 6.4.0 641B03A version.
The actual authoring tools etc. are unchanged.

Regards,
Douglas

[gianniitalia]

hello I am Italian and I have a big problem I can not find where to download the version 6.4 I have version 6.3 and Windows 7 I do not work if someone in the forum I can 'pass the download link where Potel thank you if you can .....
gianniitalia