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[jdfrost]

I'm new to burning video DVDs with Roxio.  Mostly it's going well.  I've burned single layer DVDs with no problems.  Both to -R and +R discs.  They work just fine in my DVD players.

However, when I tried to burn to DL discs it didn't go as well.  Roxio detected the DL discs ok.  I didn't receive any errors during the encoding and burning.  The disc popped out and it looked like there weren't any problems.  However, when I popped the disc into several different DVD players, none of them could read the DL discs.  I tried this several different times to make sure there wasn't a problem with that disc.

Any ideas?  I used DVDExpress with existing MP2 video files.  I can put these same video files on single layer discs and it works ok.  Quick notes, I did update the PX engine and my DVD drive does support DL discs.

Thanks!
Jim

Edited by jdfrost, 09 June 2009 - 07:48 AM.

[REDWAGON]

Is it possible that the DVD players you tried were not capable of reading a DL DVD disc ?? Everything else you have suggested with the burns and your hardware appears to be O.K. Check the spec's on the DVD players you tried and see if they can read DL DVD's. This might be a similar problem as some DVD players can read jpg photo files as well as play a DVD, but some cannot.

Frank...

[Jim_Hardin]

One reason I am still reluctant to use DL disc is that they do no enjoy widespread readability.

It seems good on current Players & Drivers but in the real world I would guess less than 80%…

Cheap media does not help the issue.

[malatekid]

I'm new to burning video DVDs with Roxio. Mostly it's going well. I've burned single layer DVDs with no problems. Both to -R and +R discs. They work just fine in my DVD players.

However, when I tried to burn to DL discs it didn't go as well. Roxio detected the DL discs ok. I didn't receive any errors during the encoding and burning. The disc popped out and it looked like there weren't any problems. However, when I popped the disc into several different DVD players, none of them could read the DL discs. I tried this several different times to make sure there wasn't a problem with that disc.

Any ideas? I used DVDExpress with existing MP2 video files. I can put these same video files on single layer discs and it works ok. Quick notes, I did update the PX engine and my DVD drive does support DL discs.

Thanks!
Jim

You mentioned your DVD drive support DL discs. What kind and model is the DVD burner? Does it have the latest firmware update?

You may want to try this freeware ImgBurn software to burn DVD.

Edited by malatekid, 09 June 2009 - 08:40 AM.

[myguggi]

I'm new to burning video DVDs with Roxio.  Mostly it's going well.  I've burned single layer DVDs with no problems.  Both to -R and +R discs.  They work just fine in my DVD players.

However, when I tried to burn to DL discs it didn't go as well.  Roxio detected the DL discs ok.  I didn't receive any errors during the encoding and burning.  The disc popped out and it looked like there weren't any problems.  However, when I popped the disc into several different DVD players, none of them could read the DL discs.  I tried this several different times to make sure there wasn't a problem with that disc.

Any ideas?  I used DVDExpress with existing MP2 video files.  I can put these same video files on single layer discs and it works ok.  Quick notes, I did update the PX engine and my DVD drive does support DL discs.

Thanks!
Jim

Did the DL DVD play on the player you burned it on? If yes, then there was no problem with the burn and the issue is with the media your are using and/or with the DVD players.

BTW, you should really be using myDVD to author and burn your DVDs. DVD Express is a "dumbed-down" burning program.

[jdfrost]

It's funny, I didn't think of trying the PC DVD drive.  I'll try that next.  

I thought my DVD player should be able to play DL discs because aren't many commercial discs DL?  Or is different somehow?

Jim

[Jim_Hardin]

It's funny, I didn't think of trying the PC DVD drive.  I'll try that next.  

I thought my DVD player should be able to play DL discs because aren't many commercial discs DL?  Or is different somehow?

Jim

Yes commercial DVD Movies are normally DL. However non of them are burned and that is the BIG difference!

Also ‘plus’ DL and ‘dash’ DL are not burned in the same way.

[cdanteek]

The Verbatim +R DL disc's I burn, with the book type set to DVD-Rom, what commercial disc type are, play in every settop DVD player I've ever tried them in....

cd

[Jim_Hardin]

The Verbatim +R DL disc's I burn, with the book type set to DVD-Rom, what commercial disc type are, play in every settop DVD player I've ever tried them in....

cd

You just haven’t had enough exposure  

I have had 6 DVD Player/Recorders of which 3 would not read a burned DL disc of any type. Likewise 3 of my DVD ROM drives would not read any burned DL disc – data or movie.

And of my Friends & Family I hit 2 more Players that can’t do burned DL’s.

My current 4 Players can play them but I still have 2 ROM Drives that cannot.

[jdfrost]

I didn't realize how hit or miss it was with DL discs!  This is useful information.  I'm guessing my player just can't read them.  They don't advertise that, er, feature!

Jim

[cdanteek]

You just haven’t had enough exposure  

I have had 6 DVD Player/Recorders of which 3 would not read a burned DL disc of any type. Likewise 3 of my DVD ROM drives would not read any burned DL disc – data or movie.

And of my Friends & Family I hit 2 more Players that can’t do burned DL’s.

My current 4 Players can play them but I still have 2 ROM Drives that cannot.

I didn't realize how hit or miss it was with DL discs!  This is useful information.  I'm guessing my player just can't read them.  They don't advertise that, er, feature!

Jim

It isn't, read post # 8 please!

cd

[Brendon]

Jdfrost,

The DVD standard supports the setting of a field of 4 bits on the DVD which indicates what type of disc it is, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL, DVD-RAM, etc.  This is called the Book Type Field.

The problem with a lot of older players is that when they check what type of DVD they have loaded, they are looking for DVD-ROM and they don't recognize any of the newer Book Type Field values. They reject a disc if it doesn't show as a DVD-ROM. In many cases this has nothing to do with the disc being burned and not pressed, it's just a matter of the player being manufactured before the Book Type was defined. [e.g. mid-2004 for DVD+R DL]

DVD+ discs [unlike DVD-] will accept changes to the Book Type field at burn time, and it can be set to show DVD-ROM so that older players recognize the disc as a DVD-ROM and are quite happy to play it.

So it's not quite as haphazard as it seems at first look. This process of changing the Book Type Field, called bitsetting, dramatically increases compatibility of burned discs with older players.