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#1 flwolf2002

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Posted 16 May 2006 - 01:22 PM

I have a camcorder that records on minidisks. The files on the Harddrive end up being:
-*.VOB
-*.IFO
-*.BUP

Can anyone tell me how to import these files in EMC 8 and how to create an actual DVD from them?

I'd appreciate any help!

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Posted 16 May 2006 - 01:34 PM

View Postflwolf2002, on May 16 2006, 04:22 PM, said:

I have a camcorder that records on minidisks. The files on the Harddrive end up being:
-*.VOB
-*.IFO
-*.BUP

Can anyone tell me how to import these files in EMC 8 and how to create an actual DVD from them?

I'd appreciate any help!

Wolf

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You should be able to capture them from the mini disc.  Make sure that the disc is finalized before trying.

In version 7.5, I would usually be able to capture those mini discs, from my daughter's video camera, by putting them in the DVD burner in my computer.  If I couldn't, it would usually work it I copied the disc to the hard drive and capture from there.  Capturing from the hard drive is not an option in version 8.  It is a bug that may not be fixed. :)

Edited by grandpabruce, 16 May 2006 - 01:58 PM.

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 06:13 AM

A VOB file is essentially an mpg2 file.  Some people have been able to just copy the VOB files to their hard drive and then rename them to mpg.  Those files can then be added directly to Video Wave.  This does not work for everyone.

Try what GPB suggested first.

View Postflwolf2002, on May 16 2006, 04:22 PM, said:

I have a camcorder that records on minidisks. The files on the Harddrive end up being:
-*.VOB
-*.IFO
-*.BUP

Can anyone tell me how to import these files in EMC 8 and how to create an actual DVD from them?

I'd appreciate any help!

Wolf

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 11:54 AM

Thanks for your tips. The rename tip sounds great, and I was able to rename the file to *.mpg, however, the DVD program(s) still see it as a VOB file.  (....*.mpg.vob). I wish, it was that easy! Can someone else help me in converting a VOB file into a format that works in either Roxio 8 or Windows Movie Maker? I'm kinda desperate at this point... :)

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 12:47 PM

You were close. Just that you added what you thought was an extension, really wasn't.  Follow this EXACTLY:
Open My Computer
Click the menu item TOOLS and then FOLDER OPTIONS
Click on the VIEW TAB
under advanced settings, UNCHECK 'Hide extensions for known files types'
Click OK

This will let you see the REAL extension of a file which was being hidden. Now go back to the file that you had renamed xxxxx.mpg.vob and remove the last part (.vob).  That should work. You should get a warning like 'Do you really want to change the files extension?' or something like that. Just click YES.

Edited by ggrussell, 20 May 2006 - 12:48 PM.

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 02:08 PM

Thanks a bunch. You da greatest! I think I can get it going after all :)


View Postggrussell, on May 20 2006, 12:47 PM, said:

You were close. Just that you added what you thought was an extension, really wasn't.  Follow this EXACTLY:
Open My Computer
Click the menu item TOOLS and then FOLDER OPTIONS
Click on the VIEW TAB
under advanced settings, UNCHECK 'Hide extensions for known files types'
Click OK

This will let you see the REAL extension of a file which was being hidden. Now go back to the file that you had renamed xxxxx.mpg.vob and remove the last part (.vob).  That should work. You should get a warning like 'Do you really want to change the files extension?' or something like that. Just click YES.


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Posted 20 May 2006 - 02:45 PM

no problem... let us know if you get working ok.
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 02:48 PM

Dear Gary,

I'm about at the end of my nerv... :)

I was able to convert / rename the files to *.mpg, as you had suggested. Howver, what ever I try, I can't put a movie together in Easy Media Creator 8. I also tried the Windows Movie Maker, whith which I had successfully created slide shows with titles, music, etc. before.

I have 2 mini disks from the camera. The first disk has 2 chapters, a short one and a very long one (about half an hour). The second disk has only one half hour chapter. I would like to put both on one DVD disk (DVD+R), but with titles, transitions and background music.

If it's not too annoying to you, would you help me with this? If not, I'll understand. It's not even for myself, it's for a friend who talked me into doing this, but I'm getting more and more frustrated! I even tried to just copy the content of the mini disk onto a regular DVD+R, but it doesn't play on my regular DVD player, just in the PC. Please let me know...  

Wolf





View Postggrussell, on May 20 2006, 02:45 PM, said:

no problem... let us know if you get working ok.


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Posted 22 May 2006 - 02:59 PM

View Postflwolf2002, on May 22 2006, 02:48 PM, said:

Dear Gary,

I'm about at the end of my nerv... :)

I was able to convert / rename the files to *.mpg, as you had suggested. Howver, what ever I try, I can't put a movie together in Easy Media Creator 8. I also tried the Windows Movie Maker, whith which I had successfully created slide shows with titles, music, etc. before.

I have 2 mini disks from the camera. The first disk has 2 chapters, a short one and a very long one (about half an hour). The second disk has only one half hour chapter. I would like to put both on one DVD disk (DVD+R), but with titles, transitions and background music.

If it's not too annoying to you, would you help me with this? If not, I'll understand. It's not even for myself, it's for a friend who talked me into doing this, but I'm getting more and more frustrated! I even tried to just copy the content of the mini disk onto a regular DVD+R, but it doesn't play on my regular DVD player, just in the PC. Please let me know...  

BTW, the files on the 1st disk are:
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB


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Posted 22 May 2006 - 06:18 PM

Let us know what you have been able to do. After renaming the files, were you able to add the files to a Videowave project?
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 05:22 AM

I imported the file(s) into Windows Movie Maker and when that didn't work, also into Roxio 8. The import takes a very long time and at the end, nothing works anyway. I'm absolutely frustrated with this entire crap! If it was just me that's involved, I would have tossed this project already days ago!

Why do none of these DVD programs work with my files? Again, the original files on the mini disks are:
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB

Do you know these file formats? I did rename each *.VOB to *.mpg, as you suggested, but even so, I can't get anything to work.

What's with the VIDEO_TS.VOB file? It doesn't seem to be a video file, but I renamed it to a mpg as well. Was that wrong?

Thanks for all your help!

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 06:23 AM

View Postflwolf2002, on May 23 2006, 09:22 AM, said:

I imported the file(s) into Windows Movie Maker and when that didn't work, also into Roxio 8. The import takes a very long time and at the end, nothing works anyway. I'm absolutely frustrated with this entire crap! If it was just me that's involved, I would have tossed this project already days ago!

Why do none of these DVD programs work with my files? Again, the original files on the mini disks are:
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB

Do you know these file formats? I did rename each *.VOB to *.mpg, as you suggested, but even so, I can't get anything to work.

What's with the VIDEO_TS.VOB file? It doesn't seem to be a video file, but I renamed it to a mpg as well. Was that wrong?

Thanks for all your help!

Here is a link to a site explaining the DVD file structure:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvd#struct

After copying the VOB files to your hard drive and renaming them the filenames should look like this

VTS_01_1.VOB = VTS_01_1.mpg
etc

All the VTS_01_?  make up the video files for a title. Since no single VOB can be larger then 1GB it "spills over" into another VOB.

The VTS_TS.VOB file the first video file that plays when the DVD starts up

You should be able to play any VOB file (renamed to an mpg extension) with Windows Media player. Usually you can also load the mpg file into Videowave without any problems.

Perhaps you could describe exactly what you are doing and someone may be able to help you.

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 06:57 AM

Ok, let's start over....
Put the miniDVD into your computer's DVD burner.
Run Media Import
Click on VIDEO
Does the drive show up in the list? Can you select the drive?
Select the drive
The 'movies' on the disc should then be listed.
Select all the clips or just the one(s) you want
Choose MPEG output
Type in a folder where you want the files.
Change the file prefix if needed.
Click IMPORT FILE button

In the screenshot, just follow TOP TO BOTTOM.

This is how you SHOULD import the disc. If this does not work for any reason, then you can COPY the .VOB files to your HARD DRIVE and rename those files with the MPG extension.  DO NOT try to rename the files on the DVD.

To make sure you are actually changing the extension, you must change the Windows View File Types.
Open MY COMPUTER
Click on TOOLS / FOLDER OPTIONS
Click on the VIEW TAB
Uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types"
Click OK

Open Explorer
Navigate to the VOB files on the hard drive
RIGHT mouse click on a VOB file
Choose RENAME
Then change ONLY the .VOB to .MPG
That should do it.

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Edited by ggrussell, 23 May 2006 - 06:58 AM.

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