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#1 Hector46

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 09:02 AM

angry.gif  I have a several-year-old Jensen Cd player/changer in my Dodge truck. I know, I know -- why don't I spring for a newer model. The darn thing WON'T play any CDs burned at a higher speed than 8x!  When  I try to burn one at either 4x or 8x in creator 2009, it won't let me select any speed lower than 16x, so I don't feel like making any more coasters. Is there ANY way to set a lower speed? Any help or advice will be most appreciated.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 09:13 AM

Try buying some media rated at 8x or below.  WMP set to slow might burn at 8x or slower (I haven't tried slow).

Edited by Big_Dave, 14 June 2009 - 09:18 AM.

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#3 Hector46

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:02 PM

QUOTE (Big_Dave @ Jun 14 2009, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Try buying some media rated at 8x or below.  WMP set to slow might burn at 8x or slower (I haven't tried slow).


Thanks, I'll try that. I remember actually burning some media at 8x for a test but I can't remember how I did it in Creator.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (Hector46 @ Jun 14 2009, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
angry.gif  I have a several-year-old Jensen Cd player/changer in my Dodge truck. I know, I know -- why don't I spring for a newer model. The darn thing WON'T play any CDs burned at a higher speed than 8x!  When  I try to burn one at either 4x or 8x in creator 2009, it won't let me select any speed lower than 16x, so I don't feel like making any more coasters. Is there ANY way to set a lower speed? Any help or advice will be most appreciated.


That's because your burners firmware, slowest write speed for that media, (MID) media ID code, is 16x ..

Here is a Verbatim 48X CD-R in three burners, two newer and one older. The top two newer burners, the slowest write speed is 16X, the older bottom burner is 12X. If you burned a CD-R at a slower write speed the media had to be older with slower write speeds and your burner had slower write speeds in its firmware for that media.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:13 PM

You might be able to get by with a program that you can set the burn speed below the minimum MID.  I just tested this out burning at 1X to a 52x CD media with a piece of non-Roxio software.  It burned very slow but I can't say for sure that it burned at 1x and that it would work for you in your old CD player.
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:44 PM

There ain't such an animal as a minimum MID, Dave. smile.gif

The MID is the ID of the medium used, but cd has explained that it is the burner's firmware which is setting the minimum speed of burn, not the disc.

Have you found some software which can override the burner's firmware? That might be useful. What/where is it?

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:56 PM

Brendon,

Since it's a software competitor of Roxio to some extent, I'll send you the info offline.

Dave

My mistake on the MID above.  It's actually the minimum drive speed information that is indicated close to the MID information. Too fast on the keyboard.

Edited by Big_Dave, 14 June 2009 - 07:06 PM.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 04:57 AM

Well, thanks all. Now I'm thoroughly confounded. I have a couple of older blanks found in a drawer -- I'll try those. It was just a few months ago, before I upgraded to Creator 2009, that I burned at 4x and 8x to test in my truck. I guess I may be out of options except buying a new unit.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 05:47 AM

QUOTE (Hector46 @ Jun 15 2009, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, thanks all. Now I'm thoroughly confounded. I have a couple of older blanks found in a drawer -- I'll try those. It was just a few months ago, before I upgraded to Creator 2009, that I burned at 4x and 8x to test in my truck. I guess I may be out of options except buying a new unit.



Sorry about the confusion..

Fact, your burner and media determine the write rate (X speed you can burn at).

You won't find 4X or 8X media to buy unless it's new old stock..

Good media along with a good burner should produce a disc that plays fine in your 'Jensen Cd player/changer' burned at 16X.

What brand name and X speed disc's are you using?

If you like you could download a 30 day trial software that replaces the one I used. It's called 'Opti Drive Control'. Download this one 'OptiDriveControl_122.zip' (click #3 in my signature) to a folder on your hard drive, unzip it, then just click the .exe file in the folder..Put the CD-R in a drive, make sure that drive is showing in the OptiDriveControl drive drop down window, then click disc info... Very useful tool.....

It will show the burn speeds available and list the Manufacture ID (MID) post that please...

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2.Click here Firmware HQ - site  dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.  
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed    
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up  PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here  How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB)  CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool  (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here.   Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)    
13.Click here  Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista  
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5,  8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <>  Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility   Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
  17. Click here Finding Your Computer Specs And Roxio Software Version Number.




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