[drsparc]

I just bought Creator 2009 for burning my TiVo recordings to DVD as this is the product the TiVo web site suggests to use. I was very surprised by how poorly it performed. Playing the video is fine, but anything beyond that (fast forward, rewind, jump to location, trim, etc) sends the CPU up to 100% and takes a very long time... or worse hangs. I went through the suggestions and upgraded my video drivers. I have a fairly new system with a quad-core Pentium chip with lots of memory, a nice video card running Vista 64-bit, so this performance was surprising to me. Then I tried converting the file to mpeg first and editing that... wow... it works great.

I don't get it... why is there a difference in how well Creator works with tivo format files VS mpeg? And if it works so badly with tivo format files, why does TiVo recommend this product?

[myguggi]

I just bought Creator 2009 for burning my TiVo recordings to DVD as this is the product the TiVo web site suggests to use. I was very surprised by how poorly it performed. Playing the video is fine, but anything beyond that (fast forward, rewind, jump to location, trim, etc) sends the CPU up to 100% and takes a very long time... or worse hangs. I went through the suggestions and upgraded my video drivers. I have a fairly new system with a quad-core Pentium chip with lots of memory, a nice video card running Vista 64-bit, so this performance was surprising to me. Then I tried converting the file to mpeg first and editing that... wow... it works great.

I don't get it... why is there a difference in how well Creator works with tivo format files VS mpeg? And if it works so badly with tivo format files, why does TiVo recommend this product?

Most likely its because the TiVo format is not standard video format and have to be first converted to be editable in video editors.

[drsparc]

Most likely its because the TiVo format is not standard video format and have to be first converted to be editable in video editors.

OK... then Roxio shouldn't claim to support it. But as long as they do claim to support it (which is why I bought the product), then this behavior is a bug in their product.

[myguggi]

OK... then Roxio shouldn't claim to support it. But as long as they do claim to support it (which is why I bought the product), then this behavior is a bug in their product.

I wouldn't consider the slow rendering a bug and the fact that the process is slow doesn't mean Roxio doesn't support it

Have you read this tutorial on TiVo?

[drsparc]

I wouldn't consider the slow rendering a bug and the fact that the process is slow doesn't mean Roxio doesn't support it

Have you read this tutorial on TiVo?

It is a bug because it is slow to the point of hanging. I just opened a ticket with their tech support.

Thanks for the tutorial link!

[mkdigitalguy]

I wouldn't consider the slow rendering a bug and the fact that the process is slow doesn't mean Roxio doesn't support it

Have you read this tutorial on TiVo?

DG, I have read your material on here before and you are well referenced here as well.

I too have this same issue now, its seems to be Creator 2009 realated as I did not have nearly this much trouble with v9. Its all about editing Tivo files in Videowave 11. Very interesting how the link you posted mentions editing but does not discuss it at all, rather burning straight to DVD and coverting to ipod. Acts like a bug, is a bug. Would love to read more about this.

I just upgraded my system from very good to very best and still have the same issue running Videowave 11 on both. I thought possilby that the first time Roxio on the virgin system (Windows 7 64 bit) would make a difference, it did not. Vista Ultimatte 32bit had the same problem doing anything but playing Tivo files in VW11.

You all are going to see me on here a lot now as I have too much invested to not get this to rock.

Going to look in another thread to ask about what I believe is a new DRM restriction limiting Standard Definintion Tivo file conversion and, I have to double check, DVD creation, to 320x240 bit. )::

[drsparc]

DG, I have read your material on here before and you are well referenced here as well.

I too have this same issue now, its seems to be Creator 2009 realated as I did not have nearly this much trouble with v9. Its all about editing Tivo files in Videowave 11. Very interesting how the link you posted mentions editing but does not discuss it at all, rather burning straight to DVD and coverting to ipod. Acts like a bug, is a bug. Would love to read more about this.

I just upgraded my system from very good to very best and still have the same issue running Videowave 11 on both. I thought possilby that the first time Roxio on the virgin system (Windows 7 64 bit) would make a difference, it did not. Vista Ultimatte 32bit had the same problem doing anything but playing Tivo files in VW11.

You all are going to see me on here a lot now as I have too much invested to not get this to rock.

Going to look in another thread to ask about what I believe is a new DRM restriction limiting Standard Definintion Tivo file conversion and, I have to double check, DVD creation, to 320x240 bit. )::

Thanks for the info. I had thought it was related to being 32-bit on 64-bit OS, so it is helpful to know it happened on 32-bit as well.

I opened a ticket with Roxio tech support and, although responsive, they didn't really offer a solution to the problem. Nor did they acknowledge it was a bug (I requested a bug number, no luck). Their only advice was to convert the files to MPEG and then edit that. And as you have found, the conversion for some reason changes the resolution. The resulting DVD looks horrible. Unfortunately, Roxio will not refund my money for the application because it wasn't purchased directly though them.

I gave up on Creator 2009 and have since moved to using VideoReDo and it works great. No slow down editing Tivo files and the resulting DVDs look great. I am very happy with VideoReDo . I just wish that the Roxio support team would take this issue more seriously because I think Creator has some nice features I would have liked to take advantage of.

[grandpabruce]

Thanks for the info. I had thought it was related to being 32-bit on 64-bit OS, so it is helpful to know it happened on 32-bit as well.

I opened a ticket with Roxio tech support and, although responsive, they didn't really offer a solution to the problem. Nor did they acknowledge it was a bug (I requested a bug number, no luck). Their only advice was to convert the files to MPEG and then edit that. And as you have found, the conversion for some reason changes the resolution. The resulting DVD looks horrible. Unfortunately, Roxio will not refund my money for the application because it wasn't purchased directly though them.

I gave up on Creator 2009 and have since moved to using VideoReDo and it works great. No slow down editing Tivo files and the resulting DVDs look great. I am very happy with VideoReDo . I just wish that the Roxio support team would take this issue more seriously because I think Creator has some nice features I would have liked to take advantage of.

Perhaps it is the Tivo DRM, or the wrong version, or a multitude of other things.

Glad you found VideoReDo. It is a good program, but is not an editing program like the Roxio software.