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[jakeworld]

Newbie to Roxio Creator 2009.

Can someone recommend a quality Blu-Ray or AVCHD external burner that will enable me to burn high-def discs from my new Canon Vixia HF S10 camcorder?  Creator 2009 is a great program, but the down conversion of AVCHD files to Mpeg-2 has produced noticeably poorer and jittery files, which don't seem to improve with changes in how many frames per second I use to record the files (30 or 60fps).  I also have had no luck recording viewable files using DivX and other file types.

Canon recommends one burner (the DW-100), but it has produced very mixed reviews.  I cannot seem to find a Blu-Ray burner that comes any more recommended and that won't eat up my limited desktop space.  I would like to make better sense of my investment in a high-def camcorder and to store record and store the large .mts AVCHD files it offers.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations.

[sknis]

Newbie to Roxio Creator 2009.

Can someone recommend a quality Blu-Ray or AVCHD external burner that will enable me to burn high-def discs from my new Canon Vixia HF S10 camcorder?  Creator 2009 is a great program, but the down conversion of AVCHD files to Mpeg-2 has produced noticeably poorer and jittery files, which don't seem to improve with changes in how many frames per second I use to record the files (30 or 60fps).  I also have had no luck recording viewable files using DivX and other file types.

Canon recommends one burner (the DW-100), but it has produced very mixed reviews.  I cannot seem to find a Blu-Ray burner that comes any more recommended and that won't eat up my limited desktop space.  I would like to make better sense of my investment in a high-def camcorder and to store record and store the large .mts AVCHD files it offers.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations.

You don't need to get a Blu-ray burner to burn AVCHD discs; just use SD burner and SD discs.  Do you have the Creator 2009 Ultimate version that has the blu-ray/AVCHD capability or the add-on that allows this?  I burn AVCHD discs all the time and they play great.  Just remember 30-40 minutes of project on an AVCHD disc.

I'm going to move this thread to the HD section of the forum; perhaps you will get more responses.

[Jim_Hardin]

Where are you experiencing this ‘jitter’? Is it when you play on your PC or when you burn a disc and play it in a BD Player?

It is often an indication that the PC can’t keep up with the flow. One of mine plays files like that another does not. But both produce great AVCHD on DVD discs that play flawlessly in my BD Player.

So you may want to try setting your VideoWave to Software Render (Tools – Options) and give that a try.

Also what OS are you running – XP or Vista?

[jakeworld]

Thanks you for the replies.  Here, in no special order, are my responses:

(1) No, I did not purchase the Ulitmate version of Creator 2009.  I realize I should have, but I thought the the Blue-ray plug in was irrelevant without my having a Blu-ray internal or external drive.  (Hence my initial query.)  I will purchased the plug-in separately.  I was also reluctant to put that much wear and tear on my on-board optical drive.  (It deems as though 30-40 minutes per disk is a lot of work for such hardware, but perhaps that is what they're made to handle.  I have only sporadically burned anything, and always simple Mp3 CDs.)

(2) I am running XP Pro (SP 3) on a HP Media Center notebook, with a 2.00 Ghz Intel Core Duo 2 processor and 2 gigs of RAM.  I realize its not no longer a rocket ship, but I have never had speed/multi-taking issues. I also have a T7200 SATA drive.

(3) The jitter is when I play the DVD on my Blu-Ray player -- not on my computer.  When I use the Canon-bundled software to aquire the AVCHD files (Pixela ImageMaker 3.0), it seems  very clear.   It's after the down-conversion to Mpeg when writing to the disc that I lose quality and pick up a jittery picture on the Blu-Ray.   (It is a Pioneer Elite BD-05FD.)

(4) I will try to enable Software render as you suggest.

Separate questions, but when I import the videos Roxio's central data file, I am wondering if it is being down converted, even though I did  not select copy and convert.  If so, is this a consequence of not having the Blu-Ray plug in?  Also, a tech support person in my office thought the jitter was excacerbated by my use of the 60 fps, which is the default setting on the Canon HF S10.  So, I changed it to 30fps, which might have improved the play-back on the Blu-ray a bit, but its plainly still an Mpeg file that is a pittance of what I imported tfrom the camcorder to my computer.

I have been using Maxell DVD-R discs, and have read a few posts they are not very good for higher resolution file burning.

Sorry for the obviously elementary questions, but I am new both to the software and the camcorder.  

Thanks again.

[jakeworld]

Where are you experiencing this ‘jitter’? Is it when you play on your PC or when you burn a disc and play it in a BD Player?

It is often an indication that the PC can’t keep up with the flow. One of mine plays files like that another does not. But both produce great AVCHD on DVD discs that play flawlessly in my BD Player.

So you may want to try setting your VideoWave to Software Render (Tools – Options) and give that a try.

Also what OS are you running – XP or Vista?

p.s . The website may also have produced some of my confusion about whether the Blu-Rau plug in made sense without my having a Blu-Ray burner, as opposed to a player.  See

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[Jim_Hardin]

How do you equate Disc Capacity to Disc wear???

You think 40 minutes of HQ AVCHD will wear out you Burner but don’t bat an eye at making a 2 hour DVD?  That makes no sense. Burn time for 1 hour = 1X, 1 hour - 2X, 30 min - 4X, 15 min - 8X, well you get it.

The time an AVCHD on DVD is dependant on output Quality. AVCHD on a 4.7 DVD (thanks to ggrussell)

• HQ – 00:40:24 @ 1920 X 1080P
• SP – 00:50:16 @ 1920 X 1080I
• LP – 1:00:00 @ 1440 X 1080I
• EP – 1:24:31 1280 X 720P

The down convert doesn’t hurt anything. But processing the files through another software before you use them is probably the problem. Bring one in directly and try it. Honestly I think the lack of true video card is your problem. Software render will fix that.

While Verbatim is considered one of the best your comment about Maxell not being good for high res makes not sense! Discs are burned by making pits with a laser. The very same pits are used for data music and video, pits are pits.

A BD burner is kind of iffy in XP… XP will not do BD, read or write, unless there are Drivers to modify it included with the drive.