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#1 User is offline   hawkeyepete 

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 08:48 PM

Bought Creator to Edit TV Programs, removing commercials, and burning to a new DVD disc.

I can record up to 6 hours of TV on a 4.7g disc, admittedly low quality, and save in DVD Video.

I have a disc with a TV program that is 4 1/2 hours long, and 3.7g in size.

I copy it to my hard drive using Media Import, edit by removing commercials in VideoWave, then attempt to burn to a new disc in MyDVD or MyDVDExpress, but the production grows to 5.5g in EP quality, and I get a message that there is Not Enough Space on the new disc.

Why is the edited file so much larger than the original that I imported?
Anything I can do?
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (hawkeyepete @ Jul 17 2009, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bought Creator to Edit TV Programs, removing commercials, and burning to a new DVD disc.

I can record up to 6 hours of TV on a 4.7g disc, admittedly low quality, and save in DVD Video.

I have a disc with a TV program that is 4 1/2 hours long, and 3.7g in size.

I copy it to my hard drive using Media Import, edit by removing commercials in VideoWave, then attempt to burn to a new disc in MyDVD or MyDVDExpress, but the production grows to 5.5g in EP quality, and I get a message that there is Not Enough Space on the new disc.

Why is the edited file so much larger than the original that I imported?
Anything I can do?


When creating video DVDs file size means nothing, its the length of the video that is relevant. A standard 4.7GB DV can hold 60 minutes of video at best quality. To squeeze on longer videos the video has to be compressed more and more with a resulting loss of quality.
It does not matter what format your source video is, it all gets converted to DVD compliant video. This means that in some cases highly compressed video will be uncompressed resulting in much larger files then the original. In some other cases such as DVd avi to mpeg2, the file will shrink.

At the price of DVDs, I don't understand why anyone would try to squeeze 4.5 hours of video on a DVD. THe quality would be terrible to watch.

BTW, what program do your realy have. Creator is a very generic term which can include 5 different versions or more

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 03:18 AM

As Walt stated, Video is based on time and file size is useless.

MyDVD will produce these approximant times:

HQ = 1:06
SP = 1:37
LP = 2:22
ELP = 3:04

There are some 2 step ways to put 4 or more hours on a DVD but it looks like a water color from a 3rd grade class laugh.gif
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE (myguggi @ Jul 16 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When creating video DVDs file size means nothing, its the length of the video that is relevant. A standard 4.7GB DV can hold 60 minutes of video at best quality. To squeeze on longer videos the video has to be compressed more and more with a resulting loss of quality.
It does not matter what format your source video is, it all gets converted to DVD compliant video. This means that in some cases highly compressed video will be uncompressed resulting in much larger files then the original. In some other cases such as DVd avi to mpeg2, the file will shrink.

At the price of DVDs, I don't understand why anyone would try to squeeze 4.5 hours of video on a DVD. THe quality would be terrible to watch.

BTW, what program do your realy have. Creator is a very generic term which can include 5 different versions or more


I am using Roxio Easy Media Creator 9.
It is not unusual for a football game to last more than 3 hours. I am too lazy to record it onto 3+ separate DVDs and attempt to maintain viewing continuity. The quality of one disc is O.K. for my purposes, as I'm just trying to follow personnel, formations, and play selection in these cases.
At least now I know that I'm not missing any settings in the software. Thanks.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ Jul 17 2009, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As Walt stated, Video is based on time and file size is useless.

MyDVD will produce these approximant times:

HQ = 1:06
SP = 1:37
LP = 2:22
ELP = 3:04

There are some 2 step ways to put 4 or more hours on a DVD but it looks like a water color from a 3rd grade class laugh.gif


Thank you for this definitive response.
Any suggestions on how I can take a 4 hour project in VideoWave, split it where I WANT it split at approximately the two hour point, and cut/paste the remainder into a new video TS File? Thanks.
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Posted 18 July 2009 - 03:15 AM

QUOTE (hawkeyepete @ Jul 18 2009, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you for this definitive response.
Any suggestions on how I can take a 4 hour project in VideoWave, split it where I WANT it split at approximately the two hour point, and cut/paste the remainder into a new video TS File? Thanks.

That is why we have all of those Tips & Tricks posted. Look at this one from Jess. Zap Commercials

Whether you want to keep or delete commercials is up to you but it explains the important, how to.

Look at the total time – we will be slicing it in 1 hour chunks.

For EMC 9 I recommend starting from the beginning. Save Project at this point with a name like Full Game..

Note: From here on we will only use Save As!!!

Split at the 1:00 point and delete all of the rest. Save As, Disc 1.

Open the Full Game Project and Split it at 1:00 and delete that part.

Split it at 1:00 again and delete all that follows. Save As, Disc 2.

Keep repeating till done.

Close VW and Open MyDVD.

Pick the background you want and Save As Basic Game.

Add Disc 1.dmsm – Save Disc 1. Do chapters or whatever and Save.

(at this point I would burn a DVD RW and test it out to make sure we are on the right path before wasting anymore time)

Load Basic Game and add Disc 2. Save As Disc 2, tinker, save, burn.

Keep going.

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