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Posted 21 July 2009 - 01:42 PM

I've attempted to convert an LP record to a wav file using Spin Doctor in Creator 5 without success. The strange thing is that when I monitor what's going on, the on-screen minutes counter shows that it is recording. Also, when the recording is done I get a "Recording Successful" message on screen. Then, when I go to the file I've selected I do find the tracks listed. However, I cannot get the tracks to play. The Windows Media screen's progress bar shows that the music is playing, but there is no sound at all. I wonder if an upgrade to Creator 9 will solve the problem, but I don't see why Creator 5 doesn't perform properly, especially since the instruction manual explicitly states how it can be done. Im running Windows XP.

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 03:03 PM

QUOTE (Georgieboy @ Jul 21 2009, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've attempted to convert an LP record to a wav file using Spin Doctor in Creator 5 without success. The strange thing is that when I monitor what's going on, the on-screen minutes counter shows that it is recording. Also, when the recording is done I get a "Recording Successful" message on screen. Then, when I go to the file I've selected I do find the tracks listed. However, I cannot get the tracks to play. The Windows Media screen's progress bar shows that the music is playing, but there is no sound at all. I wonder if an upgrade to Creator 9 will solve the problem, but I don't see why Creator 5 doesn't perform properly, especially since the instruction manual explicitly states how it can be done. Im running Windows XP.



Give us a step by step of your set up.and how you are hooked up to your source LP's.

Is this the first time you have used Spin Doctor.....it could be something simple as you have not selected Line In in your Volume Control settings (this is assuming you are connected to the line in).....details please.


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Posted 22 July 2009 - 09:34 AM

QUOTE (ogdens @ Jul 21 2009, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Give us a step by step of your set up.and how you are hooked up to your source LP's.

Is this the first time you have used Spin Doctor.....it could be something simple as you have not selected Line In in your Volume Control settings (this is assuming you are connected to the line in).....details please.


I have a Y-shaped cable made for this. The red and white ends are plugged into the red and white receptacles of the stereo. The remaining end is plugged into the LINE IN receptacle. My sound card is a soundMax HD, which is selected as my audio input. I have quality set for CONCERT. In Spin Doctor, I have selected MANUAL STOP, 7 TRACKS and CLEANING/HISS settings. I then click on
RECORD, which brings up the RECORD window, where I select FILE and then select the file location I want, then the type of file
(WAV). I then start my LP and click on RECORD. Immediately the minutes counter starts counting down. When the LP stops, I hit the STOP button. I then get a message, RECORDING SUCCESSFUL.

When I then go to the file I selected, I find that the 7 tracks are there, but when I try to play any one of them, the Windows Media screen comes up and shows me that the track is playing and shows a progress bar indicating that the music is playing. However, there is no sound at all.

I'd appreciate any Ideas you have. Thanks for your help.


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Posted 22 July 2009 - 11:24 AM

There is a difference between which inputs are made available to the soundcard's output, and which one is made available for recording.
Open up the Windows Volume Control utility. (This is usually available by double-clicking the little yellow icon of a loudspeaker in the system tray. If it's not there, go via Start|Programs|Accessories|Multimedia, or perhaps Start|Progams|Accessories|Entertainment). A screen titled "Volume Control" appears. On this screen you will see a selection of inputs. Each one can be individually switched on or off using its "mute" checkbox. All those which are not muted are available for playback through the soundcard's output, and their relative volumes can be controlled using the appropriate sliders. Thus, this screen behaves like a simple mixer, allowing multiple sources to be gathered together for output.

OK, all this is fine, and allows you to pass the input through to the output, but: it doesn't make the unmuted inputs available for recording to hard disk. To do this, select the "Properties" item from the "Options" menu. A screen titled "Properties" will appear. In the box titled "Adjust volume for", there are radio buttons: select the one for Recording. A list of available inputs appears in the box beneath "Show the following volume controls", and you should ensure that all the various inputs you may wish to record are checked in that list. Now press "OK", and the main screen's title changes to "Recording Control". This screen presents the inputs available for recording, and to activate the one you want, check its associated "Select" checkbox. The recording level can be adjusted using the selected input's volume slider; note that you can adjust this while recording (just like you can with the level control on a tape deck). You may also see a simple level meter (like the LEDs on a cassette deck) next to some inputs on some soundcards; whether they appear depends on the particular facilities provided by the soundcard's driver. However, this meter is uncalibrated and most hard disk recording packages are likely to have better metering. Once you have set the required record level, you can close down the Volume Control utility and the settings will remain unchanged (usually).
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If you select "preview" the input level meter should detect the audio and fluctuate (if you have the Line In checked).




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Posted 25 July 2009 - 09:20 AM

Following you instructions, from the "Master Volume" screen I selected "Options/Properties". My sound card shown in the "Mixer Device" box is "Soundmax HD Audio O" and the "Playback" radio button is selected. The "Recording" button is grayed out, so I go to the "Mixer Device" drop-down box and select "Soundmax HD Audio I", which automatically turns the "Recording" button black and selects it. The 4 Volume Control boxes at the bottom are all checked. They are: "CD Player", "Microphone", "Mono Out" and "Stereo Mix". I click OK and bring up "Recording Control". Note that there are the 4 afore-mentioned inputs listed, not the 5 shown on your Reply illustration. I checked the "Stereo Mix" Select box because guessed it was the best choice, then closed out of the screen.
The "Preview result was awful: harsh, loud static with the level meter showing red. None of the three inputs worked, either.
None of my volume levels are set too high.
I do not have a "Line In" input to check in the "Recording Control".
I definitely have a good "Line In" connection to my computer, proved by a little animation window that appears when I plug it in.
Hey, Ogden, what do you think? Thanks so much for your help!
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Posted 25 July 2009 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE (Georgieboy @ Jul 25 2009, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Following you instructions, from the "Master Volume" screen I selected "Options/Properties". My sound card shown in the "Mixer Device" box is "Soundmax HD Audio O" and the "Playback" radio button is selected. The "Recording" button is grayed out, so I go to the "Mixer Device" drop-down box and select "Soundmax HD Audio I", which automatically turns the "Recording" button black and selects it. The 4 Volume Control boxes at the bottom are all checked. They are: "CD Player", "Microphone", "Mono Out" and "Stereo Mix". I click OK and bring up "Recording Control". Note that there are the 4 afore-mentioned inputs listed, not the 5 shown on your Reply illustration. I checked the "Stereo Mix" Select box because guessed it was the best choice, then closed out of the screen.
The "Preview result was awful: harsh, loud static with the level meter showing red. None of the three inputs worked, either.
None of my volume levels are set too high.
I do not have a "Line In" input to check in the "Recording Control".
I definitely have a good "Line In" connection to my computer, proved by a little animation window that appears when I plug it in.
Hey, Ogden, what do you think? Thanks so much for your help!



In post #4, in the second paragraph, re-read the second line. That tells you how to select the various inputs, one of them is Line In, thats what you need, as that is were you have your audio source plugged into.
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I have 5 inputs selected and all 5 appear in the right hand picture, but I have only the Stereo Mix selected.

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 02:19 PM

In Post 5 I stated that my "Properties" screen is different from yours. It has 4 inputs, not 5 as yours does, and does not have a "Line In' box to check. Consequently, my "Recording Control" screen does not have a "Line In" Select box for me to check. I wonder what I'm missing here.
Thanks for your patience!
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Posted 25 July 2009 - 03:16 PM

QUOTE (Georgieboy @ Jul 25 2009, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In Post 5 I stated that my "Properties" screen is different from yours. It has 4 inputs, not 5 as yours does, and does not have a "Line In' box to check. Consequently, my "Recording Control" screen does not have a "Line In" Select box for me to check. I wonder what I'm missing here.
Thanks for your patience!


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