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#1 ray12

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 07:44 AM

Hello. I have been recording a few Vinyl Albums and I could not get the program in Roxio 10 to really do much. It did not get rid of the pops and scratches hardly at all. I used the "clean" option. I was wondering if I am using it wrong. But I did try a program called "Depopper" and I have to say this program works quite well and is easy to use. I was impressed. They eventually want a fee of $18 which I will definitely pay for unless I can get the Roxio clean program to work better.  I was just wondering if anyone has had any success with the Roxio program getting rid of all those pops and scratches?

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 08:53 AM

QUOTE (ray12 @ Aug 8 2009, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello. I have been recording a few Vinyl Albums and I could not get the program in Roxio 10 to really do much. It did not get rid of the pops and scratches hardly at all. I used the "clean" option. I was wondering if I am using it wrong. But I did try a program called "Depopper" and I have to say this program works quite well and is easy to use. I was impressed. They eventually want a fee of $18 which I will definitely pay for unless I can get the Roxio clean program to work better.  I was just wondering if anyone has had any success with the Roxio program getting rid of all those pops and scratches?


The audio cleaner in EMC 10 is low quality consumer beginner level software.

Look at your Windows Start Programs list.  Do you see an entry for Bias?  If so, you have Bias Sound Soap which is very good.  It was included in some versions of EMC 10.

If you don't have it, try the lenient free trial of Gold Wave.  It is very good.  Try it until it asks you for $$ or until your computer becomes obsolete; which ever comes first.
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Posted 08 August 2009 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE (sknis @ Aug 8 2009, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The audio cleaner in EMC 10 is low quality consumer beginner level software.



Although, you have to wonder what is the point of providing software that doesn't work. It only serves to frustrate users.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 10:55 AM

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Although, you have to wonder what is the point of providing software that doesn't work. It only serves to frustrate users.


EMC 10 - Burns and copies CDs, DVDs, edits video, makes DVD movies etc etc etc. approx 30 different applications with the main thrust being VIDEO.

The software does work, its just not that great as a sound editor, when it comes to LP reproduction.

Goldwave is a complete audio editor, designed specifically for audio.

If a user wanted to copy cassettes and Lp's they would purchase a program that is specifically made for that purpose (Goldwave is just one example), if they want to make movies or slide shows they would buy a program made for doing that (Roxio is just one example).

Edited by ogdens, 08 August 2009 - 10:56 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2009 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (ray12 @ Aug 8 2009, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Although, you have to wonder what is the point of providing software that doesn't work. It only serves to frustrate users.

Well, it does work, to some extent.  As with any software that cleans audio, it depends a lot on the actual noise and musical content as to how well the software work.  I use a couple different applications for pops and clicks.  My favorite is DART XP Pro, but I also use GoldWave, the Roxio Sound Editor, and DCART32.  

Have you played with the settings to see how that affects the results?  The major thing is to record the LP first, with absolutely no noise reduction.  Get an original copy with all the noise and clicks and pops.  Now you can work with that .WAV file to your hearts content, trying different settings without having to recapture each time.  Every audio cleaning software also has settings to "fiddle" with, again, to match the music and noise to what the software can do.  It's not an easy process, but work your way through the learning curve.  Sound Editor is indeed a relatively simple application to learn on.  BIAS Sound Soap, if you have it, has some very nice features to.  Actually, I like that for it's noise reduction feature (as opposed to click and pop removal).  

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 01:39 PM

Sound Editor will work to some degree depending on how much automatic clipping you want to envoke.  Too much will clip off high/low sound.  If your vinyl has only a few bad spots, you can go into the wave form and expand the time line, find the "pop" and manually cut it out.

Clean should have several selections once you import the track.  You can use "bypass" to test the effects of the different controls and their respective settings.

I cut over 50 albums using Sound Editor, inserting track markers and cutting out the pops. It does work.
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Posted 08 August 2009 - 02:29 PM

QUOTE (Big_Dave @ Aug 8 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sound Editor will work to some degree depending on how much automatic clipping you want to envoke.  Too much will

I cut over 50 albums using Sound Editor, inserting track markers and cutting out the pops. It does work.


I had some serious pops and scratches.  I didn't notice hardly any real difference when I used the clean function.  I didn't get into cutting out any pops. All the programs recommend here are pretty pricey compared to "DePopper" which is only $18. Of course, it doesn't have all the features that the other editors mentioned here have. It only has one purpose which is to remove pops and scratches which it does. Although, I have to say again, that "DePopper" had that wow factor for me. The default settings completely took out  all those scratches and pops in my seriously scratched Album. I didn't notice any loss of quality. I play a lot of jazz. Lately, I have been recording Oregon, which has a lot of high notes.  It is fully functional for something like 30 days. I will gladly pay for it.

Edited by ray12, 08 August 2009 - 02:44 PM.


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Posted 08 August 2009 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE (ray12 @ Aug 8 2009, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had some serious pops and scratches.  I didn't notice hardly any real difference when I used the clean function.  I didn't get into cutting out any pops. All the programs recommend here are pretty pricey compared to "DePopper" which is only $18. Of course, it doesn't have all the features that the other editors mentioned here have. It only has one purpose which is to remove pops and scratches which it does. Although, I have to say again, that "DePopper" had that wow factor for me. The default settings completely took out  all those scratches and pops in my seriously scratched Album. I didn't notice any loss of quality. I play a lot of jazz. Lately, I have been recording Oregon, which has a lot of high notes.  It is fully functional for something like 30 days. I will gladly pay for it.


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