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[FalvinP]

The primary reason for buying Creator 2009 was that it included Sonicfire Pro to use in adding music to Videowave productions.  I don’t know much about Sonicfire, but I do know that it’s a stand alone program that comes with Creator 2009 Ultimate.  

It somehow connects to Videowave because when I click the background audio icon it takes me to a window that allows me to choose music according to style/title/variation etc.

When I open Sonicfire Pro by itself, there seems to be more music available when you open up something called express track.

How do I gain access to these tracks from within Videowave?  I doubt that I’d ever use Sonicfire Pro because all I do is adjust volume, fades, and length, all of which I can do in the select background audio window or within the sound editor in Videowave.

The manual has little information about this.  If there are any online resources for dealing with this specific issue I’d appreciate knowing where  to find them.

Thanks for your help.

[sknis]

Please clarify; are you talking about SonicFirePro where you edit the audio or are you talking about SmartSound whihc has a selection of VideoWave and MyDVD audio tracks that can be used.  In Smart Sound, make sure you are looking at the "owned" list; not the "all" list.  The "all" list includes all music tracks available that you own AND that you can purchase.

For SonicFirePro, go here.  Thay have a pretty useful and complete demonstration.

[FalvinP]

Oops!  I was, in fact, talking about Smart Sound as opposed to Sonicfire Pro.  I was under the impression that they used the same music.  If I owned Sonicfire Pro I could use the music that came with Sonicfire Pro with Smart Sound.

I have Sonicfire Pro 5.0 scoring edition.

Different lists of "owned" music show up in Sonicfire Pro's Smart Sound Express Track window (opens when Sonicfire Pro is opened) and the "Select Background audio" window within Videowave.  

For example, in the "Rock" type within Videowave it lists three titles:  "Cold Metal", "Driven", and "Take Me There."  

In the Smart Sound Express Track window within Sonicfire Pro it lists other titles.  It lists "Cold Metal" and "Take Me There", but for some reason it doesn't list "Driven."  In addition to these two titles, six other titles show up:  "Double Diamond", "Friends Forever", "Power Drive", "Road Trip", "Spare Nothing", and "Wide Open."  

I am sure I am looking at only "owned" music in both lists.

Why don't both lists show the same titles, since I own everything in both lists?

Is there a way that I could get access to the music I own in SonicFire Pro from Videowave's select background audio window?

Once again, my main question is how can I access the other "owned" music from within Videowave?

Thanks for your help.

[FalvinP]

Does anyone have any suggestions for me?  

I use Videowave to create slide shows, with a few video clips thrown in at the end.

In the interim, I’ve been doing as much research as possible on this issue.  Roxio’s documentation offers little help on this issue, past how to add a Smartsound audio .

I’ve not filled out a “ticket” to get help directly from Roxio and I’m sure as heck not going to pay $1.89/minute with a 15 minute minimum.  I felt sure that this was such a basic question that someone here would have a solution for me.

I decided to go about my research from the Smartsound side of things.  I’ve watched most of the video tutorials on the Smartsound site.  I learned how to export music as a wave file that I can then use in Videowave, but I wanted to be able to select the Smartsound from within Creator 2009 as stated above.

All of these tutorials deal with matching music to a video clip, not with still images.  I can’t find any information on how to do this.  I’m not experienced at this type of thing so I need to start with the real basics.

This still doesn’t answer my question in the post above.  The help system within Sonicfire Pro is, in my opinion, not arranged in an orderly fashion.  The “getting Started” section of help only deals with installation, setting preferences, and getting music ready to use, with no help with the basics of starting a project.  As far as I can tell, there is no comprehensive user manual available.  Even the less than complete Creator 2009 manual is better than no manual at all.  

I’ve not been able to find a dedicated forum dealing with Sonicfire Pro.

As you could imagine, I’m a little frustrated in not being able to find the basic information to serve my needs.  This additional music availability was the sole reason I bought the Ultimate Version, since I already had EMC 10 that fit my needs.

Any help with my quest is very much appreciated.

[ggrussell]

When editing in Videowave, just add audio.  This should give you a choice between Smartsound and Media Manager for WAV or MP3 file.  Select Smartsound.  You can then select from the Smartsounds and the length needed.  After you add to music track, the length can be adjusted accordingly.

[FalvinP]

Thank you for your reply.  I mean no disrespect, but, It appears you haven't carefully read each of my posts in this thread.  In my second post in this thread (begining with Oops!) I explained exactly what my question was and gave very specific examples of what I was seeing.  I already know how to add smartsound audio to Videowave .  What I wanted to know was why I couldn't access all the "owned" music available in Sonicfire Pro while working in the "select background audio" window within Videowave.

I would very much appreciate some guidance on this specific issue.

Again, no disrespect intended.  I have gained valuable information from members like you in this forum and hope to continue to do so in the future.

Thanks for your reply.

[FalvinP]

I now have the answer to my question.  The short answer is that music from the two different sources are not necessarily compatible with each other.  This has to do with the way Sonicfire pro looks up "album" information for each track.  

I found this information on another forum, where a representative of Smartsound Software Inc. was able to answer my question.  It's not the answer I would have preferred, but at least now I know......

Thanks to all who tried to help me with my question.

[karri]

Have you tried exporting a very small size video file from Videowave and then bring that into SonicFire and then adjusting the music to the video in SonicFire? Then export the music and bring it back into your full resolution VW project to export to your final file format. Maybe that is what you did when you said you exported the music file only, but it wasn't clear so I add this method in case you haven't tried it.

I played around with SonicFire Pro a little last year and that's how it seemed to work. I haven't revisited it as I've been involved in some other things, but I'm planning to have another go at it for a small art project I will be working on soon. I can let you know how I make out with it.