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Posted 22 August 2009 - 08:47 AM

Hi,

I have used Roxio Easy Media Creator 9 to burn two directories to a CD-R - both contain files.

Unfortunately, one folder is now a subdirectory of the other (originally separate folders on the hard drive).

I want them as two independent folders on the CD-R. But can't see how to do this.

Can ayone help.

Thanks

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 08:53 AM

Use Creator Classic and create a data disk. Go to the directory containing the desired folder and click on the desired folder and then click on on the ADD button. Repeat the process for the second desired folder.
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Posted 23 August 2009 - 03:39 AM

QUOTE (Big_Dave @ Aug 22 2009, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Use Creator Classic and create a data disk. Go to the directory containing the desired folder and click on the desired folder and then click on on the ADD button. Repeat the process for the second desired folder.



Hi,

Thanks for the response.

I think you are saying that I need to create another disk. Am I correct?

Thanks.

Ps. If possible ,I would prefer to move the files (and directory) on the existing disk. Howver, it does have very little space left.
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Posted 23 August 2009 - 04:27 AM

Yes, discs are cheap. If there is little space left, it is better if you start fresh.

How did you make the first disc? Did you drag the file to a formatted disc? If so , you used a packet writing piece of software. Many people agree that using packet writing is unreliable when you want to get the data back. Creator Classic is a session writing application where you can add more to the disc (after you import the previous session).
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Posted 23 August 2009 - 04:45 AM

This is Optical Media and is a world of its’ own. Anything you know about files from using magnetic media has no value with Optical Media! sad.gif

Optical media is like Pen & Paper. Once you write it, it is done…

But it also depends on HOW you wrote the media. If you Closed the disc, it is all over. If you left it open then it can be Appended

Pen & Paper analogy – Cross out the unwanted text and write it in a new place… It will look like it is gone but that space on the disc has been used and can not be recovered.

The above applies to all optical media, however if you used RW media you have one more option. It can be erased and reused.

But that means Completely Erased, everything all or nothing! And of course nothing is free, RW media wears out and will fail without notice. Likewise the dye used, fades over time. But it is great for temporay use and learning/testing!

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 08:34 AM

Thanks to both for responding

I used CD-R and Roxio for burning. The Cd is still open, but with little space.

I don't have much space and not enough to copy the files from one directory to another.

Looks like I am going to have to put this one down to experience and start again, or leave it as it is.

I get the impression that I cannot somehow relabel so that I have two directories, rather than one directory and a subdirectory.

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 04:16 PM

Hello A,

You don't need that very much space to do what you want done. About 17 to 20 MB spare should do it, the amount of overhead space that's used when you write a session.

You don't need to copy the files anywhere, all you're doing is writing a fresh set of indexes on the disc. Here's how it's done.

-Insert your disc with the one directory as a subdirectory of the other, and IMPORT the disc session.
Attached Image: monthly_08_2009/post-208-1251072167.jpg

Right, here's the disc imported into your project, ready to go.
Attached Image: monthly_08_2009/post-208-1251072221.jpg

-Now, click on the subdirectory [in my case it's the DATA directory] to get Windows' attention and click Control-X to CUT that subdirectory. The little yellow folder symbol should get paler.

-Now click on the Volume Name [in my case 090824_1149] so that you can only see the 'test' directory and windows is looking in the 'root' of the disc in your project.
-press Control-V to PASTE that cut directory back into the root.
Here's what your project should now look like
Attached Image: monthly_08_2009/post-208-1251072484.jpg

Now click BURN, and burn your amended disc. This was what you wanted?

What has happened is that the files and directories have stayed in the same place on the disc, but you've burned a new index which shows the directories in the relationship you originally wanted.

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 02:25 AM

Yes, good call Brendon!

It will tell you if you don’t have enough room but otherwise, that should do it.

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 03:10 AM

Thanks Brendon.

I think I can follow your instructions.

I was a little suprised at the amount of space needed for the process. But, if it needs it, it needs it.

Best wishes.

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 03:58 AM

Sorry about the delay in getting back - too much to do.

I don't see to have the same toolbar that you have in Roxio.

I have made an image using the snipping tool, but cannot paste it into this page.

I will persist.

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 04:08 AM

QUOTE (anon_private @ Aug 27 2009, 04:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't see to have the same toolbar that you have in Roxio.

That's "Creator Classic" in EMC 9. You do have Easy Media Creator 9, don't you [since you're posting here] ?? Try this in Creator Classic. It does work for a disc made by Creator Classic.

I don't think the dumbed-down Sonic module in the Home application will do what you want to do.

The amount of space required is because you have to write a new lead-out and lead-in each for each session that you write, and from memory that takes about 20MB for the first session, and 14.5 to 15 for subsequent sessions.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 04:06 AM

QUOTE (Brendon @ Aug 27 2009, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's "Creator Classic" in EMC 9. You do have Easy Media Creator 9, don't you [since you're posting here] ?? Try this in Creator Classic. It does work for a disc made by Creator Classic.

I don't think the dumbed-down Sonic module in the Home application will do what you want to do.

The amount of space required is because you have to write a new lead-out and lead-in each for each session that you write, and from memory that takes about 20MB for the first session, and 14.5 to 15 for subsequent sessions.



I do have Easy Media Creator 9.

I am lost - Creator Classic?

Sonic module?

Am I right in assuming that I cannot do what I proposed in Easy Media Creator 9 - as it stands?

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE (anon_private @ Aug 29 2009, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do have Easy Media Creator 9.

I am lost - Creator Classic?

Sonic module?

If you have Easy Media Creator 9, then you have Creator Classic. If you don't have Easy Media Creator 9, but instead have one of those cut-down OEM versions which are given away free with some computers and drives, then I can't say if you'll have anything useful in there. sad.gif

Here is a screen clip from Easy Media Creator 9 [also called "Roxio Creator 9"] showing the "About this software" box which you access from the Help menu. You should check what version your "About" box shows.
Behind that box is the Sonic Copy module, called "Data Disc" in the menu. This is the one which doresn't have much in the way of capabilities. See "Creator Classic" shows as a menu choice over to the left?
Attached Image: monthly_08_2009/post-208-1251598657.jpg

Now here is a screen shot of Creator Classic, when selected from that left-hand menu. I took the clip a few minutes ago.
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Am I right in assuming that I cannot do what I proposed in Easy Media Creator 9 - as it stands?


No. If you have Easy Media Creator 9 then you can use Creator Classic to do what you want the way I showed you earlier.
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Posted 30 August 2009 - 04:39 AM

Thanks for responding.

I've got version 9.0.116

On clicking Data

I get
Data Disk
Upgrade

No creator Classic

Looks like bad news
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Posted 30 August 2009 - 05:08 AM

Yup, I'm afraid so. sad.gif

The whole info is in the first three lines of the 'About' box: Name, Version, and Build number. I'd be interested to know your build number.

However if you are missing Creator Classic you must have one of the cut-down 'OEM' versions, since all the retail versions have Classic. I'm sorry, in the olden days I'd say your version is handicapped but nowadays I have to call it 'differently abled'. [result is the same]

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 04:12 AM

QUOTE (Brendon @ Aug 30 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup, I'm afraid so. sad.gif

The whole info is in the first three lines of the 'About' box: Name, Version, and Build number. I'd be interested to know your build number.

However if you are missing Creator Classic you must have one of the cut-down 'OEM' versions, since all the retail versions have Classic. I'm sorry, in the olden days I'd say your version is handicapped but nowadays I have to call it 'differently abled'. [result is the same]



Hi,

I did get Roxio preinstalled when I bought the pc

Here is the info you asked for:
Roxio Creator DE
Version: 9.0.116
Build: 901B16J, DL2

Thanks for the advice

Ps. How did you manage to paste images on this page?


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Posted 31 August 2009 - 06:25 AM

QUOTE (anon_private @ Aug 31 2009, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Roxio Creator DE
Version: 9.0.116
Build: 901B16J, DL2


DE = Dell Edition = Cut down version
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