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#1 john prassas

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 12:21 PM

When I open a multi session disk using roxio retrieve I am unable to retrieve the files. However I can see the files names (displayed as long file names)

If I go in through explorer I can copy the files but - I need the long file names. If I open the cd in ISOBUSTER there is no UDF file, root folder etc.

Does Roxio use something Proprietary to recreate the long file names?

I know they are there, and I know the files are all intact - I just do not know how to get them off the disk with the correctly labeled names.

Thank you for help!

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#2 Jim_Hardin

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 03:34 AM

No only Optical Media Standards are used in 99% of the cases, but that depends on how your wrote the disc…

Retrieve is only needed when you create a disc in Classic using Encryption or Multiple Discs.

For multi session disc, which you indicated you used, you need nothing to open or copy the files.

If you used the packet writer, Drag to Disc, both XP and Vista can read those discs with no other help needed.

But if ISO Buster can’t recover the files, then the disc is most likely too far gone for anything.

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:38 AM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ Aug 27 2009, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No only Optical Media Standards are used in 99% of the cases, but that depends on how your wrote the disc…

Retrieve is only needed when you create a disc in Classic using Encryption or Multiple Discs.

For multi session disc, which you indicated you used, you need nothing to open or copy the files.

If you used the packet writer, Drag to Disc, both XP and Vista can read those discs with no other help needed.

But if ISO Buster can’t recover the files, then the disc is most likely too far gone for anything.



*** My Mistake it is a multi disc set. So Retrieve is needed. I can see the long file names for this disk (disk 6 of 6) when I open it in retrieve. I can also drag the files (short not long file names) off the disk from explorer BUT I need to find a way to get the long file names off of the disk rather than the short file names. When I open this disk in Retrieve I can see the long file names. When I open it in ISO buster, or explorer their is nothing for long file names, or a UDF folder for that matter.

How would I get the files off of the disk with long file names?

Thank you for your help!
John

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:20 PM

I’ve go 7.5 on a PC around here somewhere, let me play…

What does happen when you use Retrieve???  I recall it can be balky and you need to be persistent!

There is a Retrieve.exe on each disc. Try both.

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 03:11 PM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ Aug 27 2009, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I’ve go 7.5 on a PC around here somewhere, let me play…

What does happen when you use Retrieve???  I recall it can be balky and you need to be persistent!

There is a Retrieve.exe on each disc. Try both.


Sounds good I try retrieve from the disk. When I try to open the files with retrieve it says error opening file. For disk 6 for disk 5 it works.

I can pull the files off of disk 6 through explorer but I am unable to get the long file names this way.

John


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Posted 27 August 2009 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE (john prassas @ Aug 27 2009, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds good I try retrieve from the disk. When I try to open the files with retrieve it says error opening file. For disk 6 for disk 5 it works.

I can pull the files off of disk 6 through explorer but I am unable to get the long file names this way.

John


How many files are you talking about? If its not that many why not just copy the files using Windows Explorer and then rename them?

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:08 AM

John: well that is a mess… (jon sent an ISO of one disc)

I did see that they were made with EMC 6 rather than 7.

I don’t know why the filenames got truncated… I can replicate that by setting the File System to ISO9660. However as soon as the project exceeds the size of 1 disc, it automatically changes to Joliet! In fact ISO9660 is no longer even shown as a File System option.

Even Joliet has some pretty tight limits, it was written for Win3.0

The reason that Retreive.exe sees everything in full filename is because it is reading from a list ($OVRSPN$.INF) rather than the actual files. That is how it knows what is on all of the discs and is not confined only to the disc in the drive.

I would guess that some of the discs are corrupt and may not be recoverable.

Using ISO Buster I could see some files but they were not recoverable.

In theory, with a 6 disc project you can simply copy and will be able to recover all but the split files which could only be as many as 5.

I am not a fan of multi-disc projects for just this reason. I keep important stuff on several computer HDD’s and also on HDD’s that I remove and store.

If I were to do a multi-disc, it would be on quality media (Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden) and I would burn at least 2 separate sets, maybe 3 if it were really vital. It would have taken time, but 18 CD’s is less than $4.00.

For your situation??? Get all you can with Retreive.exe and direct copy. Try it in more than one PC and try it more than once when you do.

I am curious, so please let me know how you make out.

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