Where is CUDA support?
#1 Guest_lduguay_*
Posted 30 August 2009 - 10:52 AM
I have a TripleSLI setup (3 x Evga 285 GTW FTW), and the video encoding seems slower than Roxio 2009.
#2
Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:02 PM
Same applies to ATI card and their competing ‘Stream’.
#3 Guest_lduguay_*
Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:17 PM
Same applies to ATI card and their competing ‘Stream’.
My 3 cards supports CUDA 2.3 and i have the latest driver installed 190.82.
So far AVCHD encoding seems to run 5x slower than Roxio 2009...
This post has been edited by lduguay: 30 August 2009 - 12:17 PM
#4
Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:24 PM
Only other Guru who had one reports that it runs faster now.
I don’t see any difference on my PC’s but honestly I did not run timed tests to compare them… Maybe next week, but I am not getting a new card!
#5
Posted 30 August 2009 - 02:42 PM
#6
Posted 30 August 2009 - 02:47 PM
Until then we are, of necessity, just guessing.
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#7 Guest_lduguay_*
Posted 31 August 2009 - 04:13 AM
Hmm, i ran the Evga Precision tool, and my GPUs are not used at all during AVCHD encoding. That was the sole reason why i bought Creator 2010 Pro...
I hope someone can explain what is going on.
Until then we are, of necessity, just guessing.
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This post has been edited by lduguay: 31 August 2009 - 04:13 AM
#8
Posted 31 August 2009 - 06:46 AM
I'm using a Evga 9800 GT video board and I can see a definite speedup in the encoding process. Other then overclocked
settings the Evga precision tool doesn't show much the only feedback as to the GPU being used is the temperature which if
I don't set the fan at 100% will climb to over 62 C from a idle temp of 50 C. To write a BD disk in 200i9 (about 3hrs of video)
took over 8 hours, using 2010 the same process takes a little iover 2 Hours and I don't have a high end video board. Also
my CPU which under 2009 ran at 100% (all four cores) runs at 50% using 2010.
When encoding the display window will have a "CUDA enabled" logo if CIDA is being used. If not make sure that you
have the latest Nvidia display drivers installed and that Creator 2010 is using hardware acceleration.
Dana
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#9
Posted 31 August 2009 - 07:29 AM
settings the Evga precision tool doesn't show much the only feedback as to the GPU being used is the temperature which if
I don't set the fan at 100% will climb to over 62 C from a idle temp of 50 C. To write a BD disk in 200i9 (about 3hrs of video)
took over 8 hours, using 2010 the same process takes a little iover 2 Hours and I don't have a high end video board. Also
my CPU which under 2009 ran at 100% (all four cores) runs at 50% using 2010.
When encoding the display window will have a "CUDA enabled" logo if CIDA is being used. If not make sure that you
have the latest Nvidia display drivers installed and that Creator 2010 is using hardware acceleration.
Dana
Thanks Dana, useful info in a useful format!
That corresponds to some tests I did in Creator 2009
Using a 1 hour movie, my P4 took 12.5 hours and my Dual Core needed 5 hours.
Extrapolating, a 3 hour movie would take 15 hours.
You did it in 1/5 of that time.
#10
Posted 31 August 2009 - 08:04 AM
I was a pleasant surprise to see Creator 2010 living up to its claim. Wonder what a high end video board could do.
Thanks,
Dana
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#11
Posted 31 August 2009 - 08:17 AM
I was a pleasant surprise to see Creator 2010 living up to its claim. Wonder what a high end video board could do.
Thanks,
Dana
Your card already has CUDA support…
One thing you rarely ever see mentioned on these boards are any complaints about the speed of render…
Oh the beginners who think they are just copying files about don’t understand render time, but those who have done a little video work know all about time
I have thrown out my other video software years ago, save one. That is Sony Vegas and it will not live beyond my next format… Anyway, my point was on occasion I run something through it to compare and cannot believe how long it takes to render!
Render of course has always been tied to CPU speed. Roxio has pushed the edge by involving the video card and now the Stream and CUDA technology.
Of course that adds more places to self destruct…
#12
Posted 31 August 2009 - 10:50 AM
At this point all I can say is that its a good idea on paper but I haven't seen it work yet. I do plan on checking my drivers and calling ATI in the very near future. My I7-940 computer is so fast (I say this humbly here) that its not really important....but I would like to find the answer.
As an aside, in 2010 you are supposed to be able to pause the rendering process ...I haven't seen this new feature either.
#13 Guest_lduguay_*
Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:17 AM
have the latest Nvidia display drivers installed and that Creator 2010 is using hardware acceleration.
Dana
Interesting, i do not see that logo. In MyDVD i was set for hardware acceleration. Did you do anything specific to enable CUDA acceleration?
BTW, my cards (3 of them in TRI SLI) are ultra high-end GeForce 285 GTX FTW that supports CUDA 2.3 and i have the latest driver installed 190.82.
So far AVCHD encoding seems to run 5x slower than Roxio 2009.
#14
Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:25 AM
As an aside, in 2010 you are supposed to be able to pause the rendering process ...I haven't seen this new feature either.
Perhaps your PC is so fast it makes little difference…
I like a 1 hour project for testing as it keeps everything on an Apples to Apples footing. Actually those test times I mentioned were without a video card! I was using my 530 with a its Video Chipset at that time.
I only added a card because, A. it wouldn’t work on the XP drive at all and B. I hit the slideshow blank image problem on the Vista drive… I only put in a minimum card to take care of those problems whereas some of you folks have a real lightning rod bolted in your case
You can see that some have noticeable results. But I did pass this thread along for some attention. I cringed when I read the 5x marking blurb, just knew that woudl lead to questions
Where are seeing anything that says you can pause render? If it is on the site add the URL address to your reply, like this: http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/creator/suite/burning.html
I know you can pause Capture but never seen anything like that for render???
#15 Guest_lduguay_*
Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:36 AM
Oh the beginners who think they are just copying files about don’t understand render time, but those who have done a little video work know all about time
Well i have a i7-965 running at 4.1 Ghz, SSDs in RAID 0, plus 1.5 Teraflop (3 x 285 GTX FTW) of crunching goodness under the hood, i think it should run circles around AVCHD encoding...So yes i complain about the redering speed
Then again, one member is talking about a CUDA logo showing up while encoding. I do not see it, so it is safe to assume that CUDA is not used on my setup, hence my complaint.
settings the Evga precision tool doesn't show much the only feedback as to the GPU being used is the temperature which if
I don't set the fan at 100% will climb to over 62 C from a idle temp of 50 C.
Dana
The EVGA Precision tool monitors temperature, fan speed, memory and GPU frequency.
While encoding my GPU temps stays flat so are the fans. This clearly indicates that the GPU are doing sweet nothing.
This post has been edited by lduguay: 31 August 2009 - 11:32 AM
#16
Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:39 AM
Then again, one member is talking about a CUDA logo showing up while encoding. I do not see it, so it is safe to assume that CUDA is not used on my setup, hence my complaint.
The EVGA Precision tool monitors temperature, fan speed, memory and GPU frequency.
While encoding my GPU temps stays flat so are the fans. This clearly indicates that the GPU are doing sweet nothing.
Not to be too blunt, but anyone can buy technology, but not everyone can use it or make it perform.
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#17 Guest_lduguay_*
Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:51 AM
Some of the slowest servers I have ever encountered were fire breathing RAID servers. IS quoted all kinds of facts and figures about how fast they were until we showed them it took 4 minutes to start a program from desktop. It took them 3 days to fix and they never would admit what the problem was
Right
#18
Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:55 AM
As an aside, in 2010 you are supposed to be able to pause the rendering process ...I haven't seen this new feature either.
Where did you read this? I have never heard anything about this. It would be useful in some instances.
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#19
Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:57 AM
Here is the pause/resume reference
http://www.roxio.com/eng/products/mydvd/mydvd.html
its under the video section in the features
What would be really nice would be a benchmark project so we can all use the same input files and set the same output variables...theres so many that can change render time.
lduguay, I'm jealous..you have your cpu seriously overclocked....
#20 Guest_lduguay_*
Posted 31 August 2009 - 12:20 PM
Thx, it was very easy since i have the I7 965 Extreme edition, just bump up the multiplier and a few millivolts here and there.
Now back to our topic, wonder if Dana can screenshot that encoding process with the CUDA logo.

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