MP3 Disc creation & playback order
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MAMBO-MAN
, Sep 13 2009 09:15 PM
10 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:15 PM
Hi:
Have EMC 10 Suite and have used the music disc creator itself without any major problems.
However, when I place the files in a certain order to be subsequently burned to a disc,
and then I play this MP disc in my car's MP3 player, I get a completely different order
of files to be played.
Is there a "Trick to the trade" of how one goes about correctly making a list of files to
be burned and then have those files actually play in the order one initially wished (and
planned) for??
I have also tried doing this thru MMJB Plus V 10 and had the same problem.
Any help appreciated.
Thanx.
Have EMC 10 Suite and have used the music disc creator itself without any major problems.
However, when I place the files in a certain order to be subsequently burned to a disc,
and then I play this MP disc in my car's MP3 player, I get a completely different order
of files to be played.
Is there a "Trick to the trade" of how one goes about correctly making a list of files to
be burned and then have those files actually play in the order one initially wished (and
planned) for??
I have also tried doing this thru MMJB Plus V 10 and had the same problem.
Any help appreciated.
Thanx.
#2
Posted 14 September 2009 - 03:20 AM
Hello,
An MP3 disc is essentially a data disc with MP3 files on it. When it is written by a Windows application the files are sorted in Windows' alpha-numeric order. There is nothing which can simply be done to change that.
What we recommend is that you attach two or three digits to the front of the file name so that your MP3s are sorted and burned in the order you want them played.
e.g.
Some specialized MP3 players will use a playlist - a small text file with the filenames in the desired order - but there are many which don't, and there are several different forms of playlist for you to hope your player might recognize.
Having two digits will allow up to a hundred MP3s, but a CD can take around two hundred so you might consider it worth using three digits. You can skip the space between the digit and the first letter of the filename.
Regards,
Brendon
An MP3 disc is essentially a data disc with MP3 files on it. When it is written by a Windows application the files are sorted in Windows' alpha-numeric order. There is nothing which can simply be done to change that.
What we recommend is that you attach two or three digits to the front of the file name so that your MP3s are sorted and burned in the order you want them played.
e.g.
Some specialized MP3 players will use a playlist - a small text file with the filenames in the desired order - but there are many which don't, and there are several different forms of playlist for you to hope your player might recognize.
Having two digits will allow up to a hundred MP3s, but a CD can take around two hundred so you might consider it worth using three digits. You can skip the space between the digit and the first letter of the filename.
Regards,
Brendon
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#3
Posted 14 September 2009 - 03:39 AM
The image is from Creator 2010 but I believe it to be the same in EMC 10.
Brendon's method works well but if you have ton of mp3 files and/or if you want to use the same mp3 file in several different play list, that can be a long process. If you chose to use Music Disc Creator, then there is a facility that will automatically rename the files to assure the playback order. As Brendon said, a lot depends on the mp3 player and its ability to use playlists.
Brendon's method works well but if you have ton of mp3 files and/or if you want to use the same mp3 file in several different play list, that can be a long process. If you chose to use Music Disc Creator, then there is a facility that will automatically rename the files to assure the playback order. As Brendon said, a lot depends on the mp3 player and its ability to use playlists.
Regardless of what I say about computer maintenance, there is no need to defrag a solid state hard drive.
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Laptop - Windows 7 Home
Dell XPS 1645, Intel I7 1,6G with overdrive ,4G RAM, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730, Sound Blaster X-Fi MB Panzer, 500G hard drive.
Apple =OSX 10.5
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PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Velocity Micro ProMagix ©HD 60; evga x58 motherboard, Intel i7 @2.93, 12G RAM, EVGA Nvidia 560TI superclocked video card, SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, Buffalo external blu-ray burner; Creator 2012. PhotoShow 6, VHS to DVD 3Plus.
Laptop - Windows 7 Home
Dell XPS 1645, Intel I7 1,6G with overdrive ,4G RAM, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730, Sound Blaster X-Fi MB Panzer, 500G hard drive.
Apple =OSX 10.5
MacBook Pro; 15.4-inch widescreen display, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB memory, 200GB hard drive, 8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW), NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. ILife 08, Toast 10, Final Cut Express 4 and Photoshop 4.
#4
Posted 14 September 2009 - 11:00 AM
Brendon:
Thanks for your rapid reply--I tried attaching numerals (01, 02, etc.)
in front of a few of the file titles, and indeed it did work (played in order).
Sknis:
Thanks for your rapid reply.
For both or either of you:
I went thru the MP3 player guide in my car & found that it uses only
.m3u and specifically does NOT recognize any other list (as seen in the
Music Disc creator settings panel).
So I will just uncheck all the other list choices in Music Disc creator & go
just with .m3u.
What does it mean when in the settings panel it states:
"Rename tracks to ensure payback order."??
How are they renamed--by the software or by me??
And if by the software, how does it look??
I bring this up because I have some potential MP3 discs that could have
150-200 files ( or more), and the manual of the MP3 player states that it
could read up to about 998 files per disc--in other words, if I use that
many files in one disc, does "Renaming tracks" checked make life easier,
or do I still have to manually number these tracks to get the playback order
I want??
Thanks for any helpful info.
Thanks for your rapid reply--I tried attaching numerals (01, 02, etc.)
in front of a few of the file titles, and indeed it did work (played in order).
Sknis:
Thanks for your rapid reply.
For both or either of you:
I went thru the MP3 player guide in my car & found that it uses only
.m3u and specifically does NOT recognize any other list (as seen in the
Music Disc creator settings panel).
So I will just uncheck all the other list choices in Music Disc creator & go
just with .m3u.
What does it mean when in the settings panel it states:
"Rename tracks to ensure payback order."??
How are they renamed--by the software or by me??
And if by the software, how does it look??
I bring this up because I have some potential MP3 discs that could have
150-200 files ( or more), and the manual of the MP3 player states that it
could read up to about 998 files per disc--in other words, if I use that
many files in one disc, does "Renaming tracks" checked make life easier,
or do I still have to manually number these tracks to get the playback order
I want??
Thanks for any helpful info.
#5
Posted 14 September 2009 - 11:02 AM
Program does it automatically and invisibly. What you see will be what you had named the files.
Regardless of what I say about computer maintenance, there is no need to defrag a solid state hard drive.
PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Velocity Micro ProMagix ©HD 60; evga x58 motherboard, Intel i7 @2.93, 12G RAM, EVGA Nvidia 560TI superclocked video card, SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, Buffalo external blu-ray burner; Creator 2012. PhotoShow 6, VHS to DVD 3Plus.
Laptop - Windows 7 Home
Dell XPS 1645, Intel I7 1,6G with overdrive ,4G RAM, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730, Sound Blaster X-Fi MB Panzer, 500G hard drive.
Apple =OSX 10.5
MacBook Pro; 15.4-inch widescreen display, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB memory, 200GB hard drive, 8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW), NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. ILife 08, Toast 10, Final Cut Express 4 and Photoshop 4.
PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Velocity Micro ProMagix ©HD 60; evga x58 motherboard, Intel i7 @2.93, 12G RAM, EVGA Nvidia 560TI superclocked video card, SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, Buffalo external blu-ray burner; Creator 2012. PhotoShow 6, VHS to DVD 3Plus.
Laptop - Windows 7 Home
Dell XPS 1645, Intel I7 1,6G with overdrive ,4G RAM, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730, Sound Blaster X-Fi MB Panzer, 500G hard drive.
Apple =OSX 10.5
MacBook Pro; 15.4-inch widescreen display, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB memory, 200GB hard drive, 8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW), NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. ILife 08, Toast 10, Final Cut Express 4 and Photoshop 4.
#6
Posted 14 September 2009 - 12:07 PM
Sknis:
Again, thank you for your rapid reply.
Will do as you say & see what happens.
Again, thank you for your rapid reply.
Will do as you say & see what happens.
#7
Posted 15 September 2009 - 09:16 PM
Sknis:
I burned an MP3 disc using the "rename" option, and everything worked as advertised--
I got a disc correctly ordered.
Diffferent question:
What exactly does it mean when one is offered to have "volume leveling" done as
part of the burn process?? I.E. How does this happen when the software has never
encountered the files until the burn part begins? Does the software scan all the files
and raise up the lower-most volumes, or decrease the higher-most volumes??
Or does it do something else??
I burned an MP3 disc using the "rename" option, and everything worked as advertised--
I got a disc correctly ordered.
Diffferent question:
What exactly does it mean when one is offered to have "volume leveling" done as
part of the burn process?? I.E. How does this happen when the software has never
encountered the files until the burn part begins? Does the software scan all the files
and raise up the lower-most volumes, or decrease the higher-most volumes??
Or does it do something else??
#8
Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:23 AM
Yes
Regardless of what I say about computer maintenance, there is no need to defrag a solid state hard drive.
PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Velocity Micro ProMagix ©HD 60; evga x58 motherboard, Intel i7 @2.93, 12G RAM, EVGA Nvidia 560TI superclocked video card, SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, Buffalo external blu-ray burner; Creator 2012. PhotoShow 6, VHS to DVD 3Plus.
Laptop - Windows 7 Home
Dell XPS 1645, Intel I7 1,6G with overdrive ,4G RAM, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730, Sound Blaster X-Fi MB Panzer, 500G hard drive.
Apple =OSX 10.5
MacBook Pro; 15.4-inch widescreen display, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB memory, 200GB hard drive, 8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW), NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. ILife 08, Toast 10, Final Cut Express 4 and Photoshop 4.
PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Velocity Micro ProMagix ©HD 60; evga x58 motherboard, Intel i7 @2.93, 12G RAM, EVGA Nvidia 560TI superclocked video card, SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, Buffalo external blu-ray burner; Creator 2012. PhotoShow 6, VHS to DVD 3Plus.
Laptop - Windows 7 Home
Dell XPS 1645, Intel I7 1,6G with overdrive ,4G RAM, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730, Sound Blaster X-Fi MB Panzer, 500G hard drive.
Apple =OSX 10.5
MacBook Pro; 15.4-inch widescreen display, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB memory, 200GB hard drive, 8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW), NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. ILife 08, Toast 10, Final Cut Express 4 and Photoshop 4.
#9
Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:40 AM
Yes--which one??
#10
Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:52 AM
All but the last.
Regardless of what I say about computer maintenance, there is no need to defrag a solid state hard drive.
PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Velocity Micro ProMagix ©HD 60; evga x58 motherboard, Intel i7 @2.93, 12G RAM, EVGA Nvidia 560TI superclocked video card, SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, Buffalo external blu-ray burner; Creator 2012. PhotoShow 6, VHS to DVD 3Plus.
Laptop - Windows 7 Home
Dell XPS 1645, Intel I7 1,6G with overdrive ,4G RAM, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730, Sound Blaster X-Fi MB Panzer, 500G hard drive.
Apple =OSX 10.5
MacBook Pro; 15.4-inch widescreen display, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB memory, 200GB hard drive, 8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW), NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. ILife 08, Toast 10, Final Cut Express 4 and Photoshop 4.
PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Velocity Micro ProMagix ©HD 60; evga x58 motherboard, Intel i7 @2.93, 12G RAM, EVGA Nvidia 560TI superclocked video card, SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, Buffalo external blu-ray burner; Creator 2012. PhotoShow 6, VHS to DVD 3Plus.
Laptop - Windows 7 Home
Dell XPS 1645, Intel I7 1,6G with overdrive ,4G RAM, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730, Sound Blaster X-Fi MB Panzer, 500G hard drive.
Apple =OSX 10.5
MacBook Pro; 15.4-inch widescreen display, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB memory, 200GB hard drive, 8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW), NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. ILife 08, Toast 10, Final Cut Express 4 and Photoshop 4.
#11
Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:22 AM
Again, thanx for the info.
Incidentally, you previously stated:
"The image is from Creator 2010 but I believe it to be the same in EMC 10."
It is.
Incidentally, you previously stated:
"The image is from Creator 2010 but I believe it to be the same in EMC 10."
It is.
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