[magma12]

Because of tsantee's suggestion with "Disc Info", i've now discovered something crazy about ALL the audio cdrs I burned with Toast 8.
About all the cdrs I've burned since January 2008, when I finally went to OSX + bought Toast 8.

When I insert audio CDRs that I burned with Toast 8, and then I use "Disc Info" in Toast to look at that already burned cd, it shows that there is a Session 2 available for recording. Instead of saying, "You cannot write to this disc", it actually lists the space available. Which is very disappointing. I know for a fact that every time I burned an audio disc in Toast 8, I would select "Write Disc" and not "Write Session". So that when the cdr is burned, no one can use the extra space to burn other data.

I know what sessions are. And I would never "Burn Session" for an audio cd. Ever.
But... going back through all the CD-Rs i've burnt since January 2008, it's like Toast 8 didn't finalize the discs.

Hard to fathom. Because Audio CDs need to be finalized to play in cd players, don't they?
And my audio CDRs haven't given ME any trouble.

But... in Toast, with Disc Info, it appears to that one can indeed add more data to an already finalized disc.
(Those burned in Toast 8. Not those burned with Toast 7 or earlier.)
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I just used another app called "Burn" to checked an audio CDR burned with Toast 8.
And it indeed lists free space on the disc. Which would indicate the cd isn't finalized.
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When I check my OLD audio CDR (which were burned with Toast 4 on my old iMac in OS9, pre-2008)
Toast says, "You cannot write to this disc." Which is the way it's supposed to be.
The CD is completely finalized.

(The app Burn also shows there is no free space on these old burned CDRs. That's confirmation that the CD is finalized.)

So those pre-2008 audio CDRs were truly finalized.
But Toast 8 cds were not really finalized, it seems.

I'm a musician, and my newest CD came out in 2008.
Now I wonder if I need to go back + reburn that album (with Toast 7) for everybody,
so they get a good copy that isn't going to get screwed up in a primitive cd player.

Can't believe all those Toast 8 cds aren't finalized.
Does anyone know what's going on?
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As an experiment, I took an audio CDR I had burned with Toast 8 (in OSX),
and I was now able to actually burn more data to the cdr.
Where you can pull out the cd + see that new areas have been burned.

So Toast is somehow ignoring the finalization ---- or Toast 8 simply never truly finalized the cdr in the first place.
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I just right now burned a CD using Toast 7 ---- and then in Disc Info, there is no free space.
So it was finalized like my old Toast 4 used to do.

So it appears to be an issue starting with Toast 8.
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One more thing: when I put in a burned audio CD + use "Disc Info" in Toast, it says, "Session 1 TAO."

TAO = Track at Once.

However, I have never burned cdrs as "Track at Once".
Every cdr I ever burn is DAO --- Disc at Once.
But for some reason, when using Disc Info in Toast, it doesn't register burned CDRs as DAO.
The only CDs it registers are DAO are professionally manufactured (glass master) CDs.

This post has been edited by magma12: 25 September 2009 - 10:06 AM

[tsantee]

I've checked several of my Toast-burned audio CDs and all are as they should be: DAO and finalized. I have no way to tell which version of Toast was used so I checked a sampling of different ones burned over the past few years. In the past iTunes could only burn TAO. Any chance the disc was burned with iTunes?

[magma12]

No, I never burned any cds with iTunes.
They were all done with Toast.

From OS9 to OSX, I've been using Toast for 9 years.
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At least now that I'm using Toast 7 (and not Toast 8),
when I burn an audio cd, it is genuinely finalized.
Where no data can be added to the burned cd, after the fact.

Regardless, nobody has complained to me all those CDs i burned with Toast 8.
So they must play in CD players.
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tsantee, thanks for your conscientious replies.

I truly appreciate your effort.

You really helped me out + I'm grateful.