[R_i_c]

Hi,

i have Roxio 2009

also i have an 'HD Ready' LCD TV (Sony Bravia)

am an HD novice, total beginner ...

i want to DV some home movie footage from the TV in HD to improve on the quality i get in standard DV recording, for example, large pixels: i am assuming the main difference between DV and HDV is smaller pixel size, therefore greater detail?

assuming i tape this footage, then Firewire it to Roxio 2009, will the resulting video file still be in HDV and, if so, can i then burn it to a DVD and see an HDV video when i watch the disc on pc or the LCD TV by way of a dvd player?

i am running Vista Basic and my dvd player is a Philips DVP 3120.

thanks

Ric


ps. am asking this question to ensure i don't end up with a brand new HDV cam which basically gives me the same quality i am already getting on my standard DV cam - i am unsure what the basic minimum equipment is that you need to realise HDV footage from filming through edit to burning an HDV disc?

This post has been edited by R_i_c: 15 October 2009 - 02:26 PM

[thornbike]

Hi,

i have Roxio 2009

also i have an 'HD Ready' LCD TV (Sony Bravia)

am an HD novice, total beginner ...

i want to DV some home movie footage from the TV in HD to improve on the quality i get in standard DV recording, for example, large pixels: i am assuming the main difference between DV and HDV is smaller pixel size, therefore greater detail?

assuming i tape this footage, then Firewire it to Roxio 2009, will the resulting video file still be in HDV and, if so, can i then burn it to a DVD and see an HDV video when i watch the disc on pc or the LCD TV by way of a dvd player?

i am running Vista Basic and my dvd player is a Philips DVP 3120.

thanks

Ric


ps. am asking this question to ensure i don't end up with a brand new HDV cam which basically gives me the same quality i am already getting on my standard DV cam - i am unsure what the basic minimum equipment is that you need to realise HDV footage from filming through edit to burning an HDV disc?

Hi ric

I presume you are using a DV camcorder with tape or dvd inside for recording onto.
You cannot get HD footage from standard DV footage. Standard definintion is about 480 lines whereas Hd footage is either 720 lines or 1080 lines ! You must get HD footage in the first place from an HD camcorder or digital still camera before converting into avchd in Roxio. hope this is helpful.

Thornbike

[R_i_c]

Hi ric

I presume you are using a DV camcorder with tape or dvd inside for recording onto.
You cannot get HD footage from standard DV footage. Standard definintion is about 480 lines whereas Hd footage is either 720 lines or 1080 lines ! You must get HD footage in the first place from an HD camcorder or digital still camera before converting into avchd in Roxio. hope this is helpful.

Thornbike

ok thanks Thornbike,

am feeling my way, please forbear :-o

so if i video something with an HDV cam, burn it to disc, play it on my 'HD Ready' flatscreen, then re-film it with the same HDV cam, i will end up with a better result than if i went through the whole exercise with a standard [less lines] definition dv cam?

you obviously lose quality by videoing material off any screen? so i want to improve on what i get.

sometimes video my own screen footage because i am into experimenting with video effects.

thanks again

Ric

[Jim_Hardin]

ok thanks Thornbike,

am feeling my way, please forbear :-o

so if i video something with an HDV cam, burn it to disc, play it on my 'HD Ready' flatscreen, then re-film it with the same HDV cam, i will end up with a better result than if i went through the whole exercise with a standard [less lines] definition dv cam?

you obviously lose quality by videoing material off any screen? so i want to improve on what i get.

sometimes video my own screen footage because i am into experimenting with video effects.

thanks again

Ric

Absolutely NOT! – what on earth are you thinking???

Try it right now with what you have. You think your HD TV picture is good, record it with your camcorder.

Make a DVD and play it on that TV and record the output.

Make another DVD with that and play the two and see what you get… Actually if your any good with VideoWave, you can place recording 2 as an overlay on recording one, say Left Half of both so they are presented side by side at the same time. It will be an eye opener

A DVD on an HD TV will look good.

An HD recording played as BD or AVCHD will look even better on an HD TV.

You cannot record off of a screen and get anything decent. When your done, you can count the pixels in your recording.

The loses are going to come from this simple fact. You are looking at screen pixels then recording them on pixel matrix of a 1/4” to 1/5” CCD. Then blow them back up to a full screen…

Also you screen doesn’t produce light like the real world, so you camcorder ‘opens up’ to record the screen.

This post has been edited by Jim_Hardin: 16 October 2009 - 06:25 AM

[ggrussell]

... will the resulting video file still be in HDV and, if so, can i then burn it to a DVD and see an HDV video when i watch the disc on pc or the LCD TV by way of a dvd player?

Regular DVD players can not playback hidef in any form. If you want to get the full benefits of your HDV camcorder, you will need to buy a bluray burner for the computer and a Bluray player for the HDTV.

[DeltaForce]

thx

[R_i_c]

Absolutely NOT! – what on earth are you thinking???

Try it right now with what you have. You think your HD TV picture is good, record it with your camcorder.

Make a DVD and play it on that TV and record the output.

Make another DVD with that and play the two and see what you get… Actually if your any good with VideoWave, you can place recording 2 as an overlay on recording one, say Left Half of both so they are presented side by side at the same time. It will be an eye opener

A DVD on an HD TV will look good.

An HD recording played as BD or AVCHD will look even better on an HD TV.

You cannot record off of a screen and get anything decent. When your done, you can count the pixels in your recording.

The loses are going to come from this simple fact. You are looking at screen pixels then recording them on pixel matrix of a 1/4” to 1/5” CCD. Then blow them back up to a full screen…

Also you screen doesn’t produce light like the real world, so you camcorder ‘opens up’ to record the screen.

yup, as previously - i do know that recording something off a screen loses a massive amount of detail - this is the same with any medium, thanks.


sorry - this thread went cold on me and i received no updates that i was getting replies :-|

maybe i forgot to check notifications?

anyway: stage 2

have seen that Roxio Creator 2009 can handle AVCHD format -

what is the minimum system requirement for editing/burning HD please?

obviously a Blue Ray burner (+ writer, all in one?)

what about CPU and hard drive for example?

many thanks

Ric

This post has been edited by R_i_c: 05 December 2009 - 03:49 AM

[Jim_Hardin]

The faster the better! Quad core is better than Dual core is better than a P4…

The AVCHD output is for DVD. But it does require a BD Player to see it!

BD is BD it only comes in one flavor. Of course you need a BD Burner as well as Player.

Basically, if your PC meets the software specs, it will run.

Look at the 2 system I have in my signature… Neither is one is a Lightning Rod of performance.

These are the render times I see:

I didn't do BD as I did not have one at the time. Would be about the same as AVCHD.

[R_i_c]

The faster the better! Quad core is better than Dual core is better than a P4…

The AVCHD output is for DVD. But it does require a BD Player to see it!

BD is BD it only comes in one flavor. Of course you need a BD Burner as well as Player.

Basically, if your PC meets the software specs, it will run.

Look at the 2 system I have in my signature… Neither is one is a Lightning Rod of performance.

These are the render times I see:

I didn't do BD as I did not have one at the time. Would be about the same as AVCHD.

Hi Jim

these are the specs - they look surprisingly good to me? i thought i was going to have to up the CPU but it's only one stage below the 6000+ top of the shop for this make of AMD dual core:

Dell Inspiron 531
CPU: AMD Athlon 64x2, 5600+, 2.81GHz / AMD K8
Ram: 2GB
Vista: 32bit
Graphics Card: Radeon HD4650 / ATI Catalyst / 1GB Memory, Blu-ray functionality + HDMI, HDTV, xvYCC

how is this looking please?

thanks

[Jim_Hardin]

Hi Jim

these are the specs - they look surprisingly good to me? i thought i was going to have to up the CPU but it's only one stage below the 6000+ top of the shop for this make of AMD dual core:

Dell Inspiron 531
CPU: AMD Athlon 64x2, 5600+, 2.81GHz / AMD K8
Ram: 2GB
Vista: 32bit
Graphics Card: Radeon HD4650 / ATI Catalyst / 1GB Memory, Blu-ray functionality + HDMI, HDTV, xvYCC

how is this looking please?

thanks

I think it looks good!

You may want to up the RAM to 4GB but try it and see for a while…

Understand that RAM only help in editing large HD files… The render process uses something like 300MB so RAM is pointless there.

[R_i_c]

I think it looks good!

You may want to up the RAM to 4GB but try it and see for a while…

Understand that RAM only help in editing large HD files… The render process uses something like 300MB so RAM is pointless there.

Thanks Jim

sorry - am not getting post updates, lucky i dropped by :-o even though i am "currently receiving email notification of replies" according to the forum.

weird - i thought i had full Ram but maybe not, must check under the bonnet

well my first stop will be the HD cam then - will feel my way forward from there: exciting

many thanx again

[Jim_Hardin]

Thanks Jim

sorry - am not getting post updates, lucky i dropped by :-o even though i am "currently receiving email notification of replies" according to the forum.

weird - i thought i had full Ram but maybe not, must check under the bonnet

well my first stop will be the HD cam then - will feel my way forward from there: exciting

many thanx again

You can check RAM with 2 keys…

Win-Pause

You said you were getting 2GB. Try that but if editing bogs down, put 2 more in for 4GB.

[grandpabruce]

[snip]

Thanks Jim

sorry - am not getting post updates, lucky i dropped by :-o even though i am "currently receiving email notification of replies" according to the forum.


many thanx again

Don't depend on that email notification. It only notifies you, if you don't want any notification.

[R_i_c]

You can check RAM with 2 keys…

Win-Pause

You said you were getting 2GB. Try that but if editing bogs down, put 2 more in for 4GB.

thanks Jim - still flags up 2GB; must investigate

Don't depend on that email notification. It only notifies you, if you don't want any notification.

oh right - useful to know that, thank you