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Posted 31 May 2006 - 07:04 AM

Hi,

I've edited in EMC 8 a list of songs to match a Movie DVD I'm creating.

I want the songs to match specific photos.

Once I have created the project and inserted the background music, what is the best way to either lengthen or shorten individual tracks?

Thank you.

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 02:13 PM

Add the first piece of music to the music track. Hold your cursor at the end of the track. The cursor will change to a double arrow, simply pull or push the double arrow to the location you want the song to end. Add the second piece of music to another audio track doesn't matter which. Pull the entire music cut to the same time as the end of the first track. Shorten it or lengthen it as necessary. Repeat as necessary by adding the third piece of music to the music track.

By playing around with the fade in and fade out and by adjusting the time overlap, you can almost make the transition from song to song seamless. Of course, you cannot make a 2 minute song into a three minute song. You just add another copy and play with the overlap so that you use repeating music phrases so no one notices.

Your audio tracks should look like the image.


View Postmetroeditor, on May 31 2006, 10:04 AM, said:

Hi,
I've edited in EMC 8 a list of songs to match a Movie DVD I'm creating.
I want the songs to match specific photos.
Once I have created the project and inserted the background music, what is the best way to either lengthen or shorten individual tracks?
Thank you.
Tim

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 08:08 AM

Thanks Steve,

I may redo my show in video editor, but for now it is a DVD slide show.

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 09:38 AM

There was a post in the last day or so about taking a MyDVD Slide Show and putting it into VideoWave. I'll try to find it or the OP will post it here. It is pretty easy and you'll like VideoWave for creating slide shows much more than MyDVD (and you have all the flexibility)..

View Postmetroeditor, on Jun 1 2006, 11:08 AM, said:

Thanks Steve, I may redo my show in video editor, but for now it is a DVD slide show.
Tim

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 11:32 AM

Hi,

I've got all my photos organized in VideoWave and added the song snippits one at a time. But I can't get that view in the sample above to move the songs around. Trying to move songs has created two "gaps" of silence.

Is there a tutorial on this? The book that came with 8 is not helpful.

Thank you,

Tim
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 01:15 PM

That is the timeline view. To view the different tracks, click on the icon that looks like a box with plus and minus signs and check the tracks that you want to view. You might also want to click on the icon that looks like a right angle (the selected one in the image) it is something like "edit volume envelope for audio objects.".

This is the site for the tutorials but I'm afraid that those are very basic and will not cover what I posted.

View Postmetroeditor, on Jun 2 2006, 02:32 PM, said:

Hi,
I've got all my photos organized in VideoWave and added the song snippits one at a time. But I can't get that view in the sample above to move the songs around. Trying to move songs has created two "gaps" of silence.
Is there a tutorial on this? The book that came with 8 is not helpful.
Thank you,
Tim

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Posted 03 June 2006 - 07:09 AM

Thanks,

I got it. I also learned that I don't have to pre-edit my music. Just drag the track onto the bar, click on it and I can use the internal music editing program to just get the selection I want. Wonderful.

And editing the music is tricky with all those "points" but can be mastered. I have 18 pieces of music all fading in and out of a 403 photo slide show.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 09:11 PM

View Postsknis, on May 31 2006, 03:13 PM, said:

Add the first piece of music to the music track. Hold your cursor at the end of the track. The cursor will change to a double arrow, simply pull or push the double arrow to the location you want the song to end. Add the second piece of music to another audio track doesn't matter which. Pull the entire music cut to the same time as the end of the first track. Shorten it or lengthen it as necessary. Repeat as necessary by adding the third piece of music to the music track.

By playing around with the fade in and fade out and by adjusting the time overlap, you can almost make the transition from song to song seamless. Of course, you cannot make a 2 minute song into a three minute song. You just add another copy and play with the overlap so that you use repeating music phrases so no one notices.

Your audio tracks should look like the image.


Hi Steve,

In the illustration above, you show the green dots as the fade point.

How do I increase the fade-out point? If I try to add another "dot" to the left and make the sound line slide down, it plays fine on screen. But when I save and reopen, at the very end of the song, for a fraction of the second, it blips the sound up to full before the new song fades in.

This issue is only with fading out. The fade ins work fine.

Thanks,

Tim
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 01:06 AM

View Postmetroeditor, on Jun 4 2006, 12:11 AM, said:

Hi Steve,
In the illustration above, you show the green dots as the fade point.
How do I increase the fade-out point? If I try to add another "dot" to the left and make the sound line slide down, it plays fine on screen. But when I save and reopen, at the very end of the song, for a fraction of the second, it blips the sound up to full before the new song fades in.
This issue is only with fading out. The fade ins work fine.
Thanks,
Tim


Tim, I've tried that and never have been completely successful. It usually works the way you described it. When and if Roxio comes out with the software upgrade to the Deluxe Version, you might want to consider it since it has the complete sound editor. It was supposed to be out last month for around $20.
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 07:35 AM

View Postsknis, on Jun 4 2006, 02:06 AM, said:

Tim, I've tried that and never have been completely successful. It usually works the way you described it. When and if Roxio comes out with the software upgrade to the Deluxe Version, you might want to consider it since it has the complete sound editor. It was supposed to be out last month for around $20.



Oh Steve,

Thank you very much. Even though it doesn't solve my problem. I'll stop trying to make it work.

And yes, the upgrade would be well worth the $20. I'm just bummed it isn't avialable now.

If I was to just buy the Deluxe version would that have the feature?

What if I went online and bought this version:

http://www.roxio.com...ave/index.jhtml

Tim

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 12:27 PM

If you have V8, not the essentials, you already have everything in that product. Wait for the deluxe upgrade. The deluxe has the full audio editor included. Why don;t you call sales at Roxio to see if they know anything or if they can give you a better deal to go to the deluxe version.

View Postmetroeditor, on Jun 4 2006, 10:35 AM, said:

Oh Steve,
Thank you very much. Even though it doesn't solve my problem. I'll stop trying to make it work.
And yes, the upgrade would be well worth the $20. I'm just bummed it isn't available now.
If I was to just buy the Deluxe version would that have the feature?
What if I went online and bought this version:
http://www.roxio.com...ave/index.jhtml

Tim

PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
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