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TiVO conversion quality downgraded from Popcorn 3 to 4? New limit on TiVO resolution?

#1 User is offline   Nirgal 

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:16 PM

I just upgraded to Popcorn 4 a few days ago, after having used Popcorn 3 for the last several months.

In Popcorn 3, I would use Tivo Transfer to put the .tivo file on my computer, then convert it with Popcorn; I always converted it with a custom setting - with resolution of 1280 by 720, the same as the .tivo file.

Now, when I get ready to convert the .tivo file, I am told that it can only be converted to 480 by 360, "the maximum size allowed by TiVO"??!!!! That is obviously not a technical limitation, because it was not the maximum size allowed in Popcorn 3.

What the heck is going on, and where did this ridiculous resolution limitation come from?

Thanks in advance for any information.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:52 PM

I don't have TiVo so you'll have to give me more detail. You add the video from TiVo to the Video files setting in Popcorn's Convert window. Is that correct. Then you click the button and choose what as your convert setting? If you choose h.264 player it should not change the resolution, nor with several other settings. What format are you wanting it to be?

Does this have anything to do with the Mac-to-TiVo application?
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:46 AM

QUOTE (tsantee @ Oct 26 2009, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have TiVo so you'll have to give me more detail. You add the video from TiVo to the Video files setting in Popcorn's Convert window. Is that correct. Then you click the button and choose what as your convert setting? If you choose h.264 player it should not change the resolution, nor with several other settings. What format are you wanting it to be?

Does this have anything to do with the Mac-to-TiVo application?


Hi Tsantee,

Thanks for the reply. I use the Tivo to Mac application, which copies the .tivo file as it exists on the TiVO recorder directly over to my Mac. The copy that is on my mac is in 1280 by 720 resolution. Then I open Popcorn 4 and get ready to convert the .tivo file. With other types of files, I can click at the bottom to select the conversion type, and I have access to a "custom" option that lets me select the resolution, frame rate, etc. But if it is a .tivo file, there is no custom option; in red text, there's a statement that the file will be converted in 480 by 360, the maximum allowed by TiVO. It doesn't matter if I choose H.264, Apple TV, MP4, or whatever - there's no custom option, and the "maxiumum allowd" warning is shown.

I suppose this could be a limitation requested by TiVO. No matter whose idea it was, I am very steamed that there was no warning or any information at all that upgrading to Popcorn 4 would actually downgrade the resolution at which you can convert shows recorded on TiVO.


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Posted 27 October 2009 - 12:07 PM

QUOTE (Nirgal @ Oct 27 2009, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Tsantee,

Thanks for the reply. I use the Tivo to Mac application, which copies the .tivo file as it exists on the TiVO recorder directly over to my Mac. The copy that is on my mac is in 1280 by 720 resolution. Then I open Popcorn 4 and get ready to convert the .tivo file. With other types of files, I can click at the bottom to select the conversion type, and I have access to a "custom" option that lets me select the resolution, frame rate, etc. But if it is a .tivo file, there is no custom option; in red text, there's a statement that the file will be converted in 480 by 360, the maximum allowed by TiVO. It doesn't matter if I choose H.264, Apple TV, MP4, or whatever - there's no custom option, and the "maxiumum allowd" warning is shown.

I suppose this could be a limitation requested by TiVO. No matter whose idea it was, I am very steamed that there was no warning or any information at all that upgrading to Popcorn 4 would actually downgrade the resolution at which you can convert shows recorded on TiVO.

This sounds nutty to me. Can you find confirmation (maybe in TiVo's forums) that it has established a maximum 480 x 360 resolution for conversions? You mention a TiVo to Mac application. Aren't you using the TiVo transfer in Popcorn's media browser to access the videos?

We need another TiVo user to jump in here. You may also want to post in the TiVo for Mac forum here on Roxio's site.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!
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