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#1 09RKC

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 08:07 PM

Hello all!

I saw Jim's post in another thread but thought I'd start a new one as I have more questions aside from this...

"Plan B: ‘Burn’ the project at High Quality as a File/Folder, then use Video Copy and Convert to Actually burn that Folder to disc.
VCC will re-render to fit your media and does a much better job then MyDVD", and "Also, disable your ffdshow, since Creator 2010 already has the needed codecs installed".

Sounds good. I've got a project that's a little less than 120 minutes. Do you know if 'Plan B' will help in lieu of 'Fit to Disc'? As you said, I'm disappointed with the FTD results.

I have the BR burner and DVD burner, tried both. The DVD burner seems to produce a visually softer movie, far less crisp than the BR burner. That's a good thing as the BR picture is so crisp there appears to be lines, or interlaced (if that's what interlaced means). I've played both back in both a BR player and DVD player. About the same results. I'm using TDK -R DVDs since most people who'll get this production won't have BR players. It may be worth my time to split this production to be put on two discs.

Regardless, it's confusing. There's so many options to consider, none of which I know what they do. I would so much appreciate descriptive and a general direction where to start in testing for the best pic:

Rendering hardware / software
NTSC / PAL
Interlaced / Progressive
Single / Dual Layer

Between those options and having the two burners... that gives me too many combinations to test. There's got to be a better way. Can you give me some direction please? Equipment as follows:

Cmptr:
XPS710
XP Pro (sp3)
Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU @ 2.66GHz
2.66 GHZ 2.00gb RAM
(2) NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 Video Cards

Burner:
-LG - 8x Internal Blu-ray Disc/Double-Layer DVD?RW/CD-RW Drive
-Multiformat Support: BD-R/RE, BD-ROM, DVD+R/R DL/RW, DVD-R/R DL/RW, DVD-RAM and CD-R/RW media.
-Blu-ray Disc media: Offers both 25GB and 50GB BD-R (write once) and BD-RE (rewritable) discs (not included) that allow you to store up to 4 hours of 1080 high-definition video.

Camcorder:
Sony HDR-XR200 Handycam
AVCHD - Full HD 1080
1920x1080 HD Recording

Tkx!!
Doug

Edited by 09RKC, 06 November 2009 - 08:14 PM.


#2 ggrussell

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 10:30 PM

IF you are burning the same standard definition MPEG 2 file to 4.7 DVD, I don't see how a BD burner would make any difference. Interesting though...

Rendering hardware / software
Videowave/MyDVD can use the graphics chip to render some parts like the 3D transitions/Effects.  Some lower end card do not support the DirectX commands needed so these cards should use software render.  In software render mode, the 3D transitions/effects are not available.  This is different from ATI Stream and nVidia CUDA support which accelerates rendering.

NTSC / PAL
Simply put - NTSC USA TV system,  PAL - Europe.  Ok, there's more to it than that. LOL

Interlaced / Progressive

Interlaced is what it sounds like.  The scan line of the video are interlaced.  

Single / Dual Layer
Fairly much what you would think.  On a 4.7GB blank DVD, the video data is burned on a single layer. On a 8.5 GB blank DVD, the first layer is burned and then the laser is refocused to a second layer for burning.  Dont' ask me HOW it works.  Way over my head. LOL

Edited by ggrussell, 06 November 2009 - 10:31 PM.

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#3 09RKC

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 10:48 PM

Tkx! Helps much...

Ok, I'm going with Rendering Hardware and NTSC. I tried Rendering Software but the menus didn't turn out how they looked in the preview. All pictures were missing. It'll be interesting to see if they're there when I reset it. It did work b4 using Rendering Hardware.

Interlaced / Progressive
>>Interlaced is what it sounds like.  The scan line of the video are interlaced.<<
Then what is progrssive? Is there any obvious difference in viewing?

So far regardless how I choose to burn, the picture looks like (at various times depending on the scene), pixels. You can actually see tiny squares. That's using the BR player. I didn't check the DVD player, which I probably should and will.

I may still recommend we go with a two DVD set.

At the moment I'm doing the File Folder and Copy & Convert process in lieu of Fit to Disc. It's burning now... we'll see.

Tkx again!!
Doug

Edited by 09RKC, 06 November 2009 - 10:50 PM.


#4 ggrussell

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 06:24 AM

Progressive displays the entire 'frame' top to bottom as one field instead of two interlaced fields. Theoretically, progressive gives a better picture, but it really depends on the display device. Older TVs are all interlaced. Some newer LCD HDTVs are still interlaced and some are Progressive.  That's what the tiny 'i' and 'p' stand for. wink.gif  All computer monitors are progressive displays.

My Canon HV20 shoots in interlaced video so I just keep everything interlaced.  Much less problems that way.
Phenom X4 965 3.4Ghz, 4gig DDR3, LG 47" 3D TV, Hitachi 1TB HD, Seagate 500GB, LiteOn iHBS112 Bluray, TSSTCorp SH-222A DVD, ATI HD3300 IGP, VIA HiDef audio with Logitech Z5500 THX certified 5.1 speakers, Epson 4490 scanner, Canon 9000Pro MarkII printer, Sharp AL1551CS laser printer/copier, Sony TRV740 8mm digital, Canon HV20 HDV camcorder and Fuji S7000 for still photos, Win7 Home Premium
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