[tom_f]

Hi folks,
I just read the new AACS specs say that from December 4 2009 on, all commercial Blu-Ray discs have to include the managed copy feature which enables consumers to make one legal copy of the BD. As far as I understand this has to be done during the authoring process. On the Netblender site they have a comparison chart of the feature sets of the different authoring suites. This chart states DVDIt HD does not offer this feature. So, does this mean that Sonic DVDIt Pro HD can not output any longer valid CMF masters which are accepted by the replicators?
Anyone heard of this? And what about BD powerstation?
I am quite confused.
Cheers,
Tom F

[danny]

Hi folks,
I just read the new AACS specs say that from December 4 2009 on, all commercial Blu-Ray discs have to include the managed copy feature which enables consumers to make one legal copy of the BD. As far as I understand this has to be done during the authoring process. On the Netblender site they have a comparison chart of the feature sets of the different authoring suites. This chart states DVDIt HD does not offer this feature. So, does this mean that Sonic DVDIt Pro HD can not output any longer valid CMF masters which are accepted by the replicators?
Anyone heard of this? And what about BD powerstation?
I am quite confused.
Cheers,
Tom F

HI Tom,
as Managed Copy require ISAN-number and DVDitHD also require ISAN-number to output the BDCMF, I would say that DVDitHD will support Managed Copy, but who knows.

danny

[tom_f]

I asked Sonic Support about Managed Copy for BD PowerStation. Here is the answer:
"Hi Thomas,
Thanks for your query. BD PowerStation does not support adjusting the settings for Managed Copy for the CMF. The CMF from PowerStation is set up to specify no copies within the Managed copy data. If your requirements mean you need to adjust that Scenarist BD Professional is the product that allows that control. Bear in mind that the current thinking is that managed copy will not really come into action until around March 2010.
Best regards,
Sam."
So I better start collecting some money to buy Scenarist ;-). No, I think I will switch to NetBlender or use BlueStreak Premaster. Larry Applegate (BlueStreak) told me them they "will implement if it becomes mandatory." Hmm, thought it's already mandatory.
Anyways, I don't think we will see an update for DVDIt ProHD including this feature.

Cheers,
Thomas

[drbgaijin]

..................The CMF from PowerStation is set up to specify no copies within the Managed copy data................................Bear in mind that the current thinking is that managed copy will not really come into action until around March 2010.
Best regards,
Sam."

Bearing in mind that the version of DVDitProHD that is shipped with Powerstation is 6.4.2 which, as Sam said does not allow the 1-copy choice, and that the changes from 6.4.0 to 6.4.2 were that the "Sony CMF" option was replaced by the "BDCMF" standard one, then I see no reason why a future version of DVDitProHD (for shipping with Powerstation) will not have the option included.
From what I have learned over the past few weeks, I think (speculate?) that Sonic will be putting in a lot of work on DVDitProHD to bring it into line with Cinevision and ScenaristQC.
Also, as you say, I again speculate about the future of DVDitProHD as a stand-alone Roxio product.... and can see Roxio concentrating on their other products and leaving DVDitProHD's development to Sonic and its implementation into Powerstation.

All of this is, of course, dependent on what level you are working with Blu-Ray/DVD authoring.
In a highy professional world - Scenarist is not so expensive in relationship to the size of budgets involved.
In a consumer/prosumer world - DVDitProHD is in the right price class. But there are other products that can fill the gap if necessary.
In that world between the two there is now the Sonic BD Powerstation Suite.

Regards,
Douglas


Cheers,
Thomas

[danny]

So I better start collecting some money to buy Scenarist ;-). No, I think I will switch to NetBlender or use BlueStreak Premaster. Larry Applegate (BlueStreak) told me them they "will implement if it becomes mandatory." Hmm, thought it's already mandatory

hi tom,
scenarist is far to expensive - even if they had reduced the price for it. it´s still at 15000EUR for the autoring-application only - but there is much more to buy.

I know larry is working on a bigger update for blustreak and they are working on blustreak composer, a fully functional BD-authoring-application for mac os. it will be cheaper than dostudio as well.

so - if your customers let you do this, you´d better wait for it.

danny


PS: I have created a lot working BDCMFs with blustreak right now - all came out of replication without no problem.

[tom_f]

I know larry is working on a bigger update for blustreak and they are working on blustreak composer, a fully functional BD-authoring-application for mac os. it will be cheaper than dostudio as well.

This sounds very interesting indeed! I have the time to wait.

PS: I have created a lot working BDCMFs with blustreak right now - all came out of replication without no problem.

How was your workflow: You prepared everything in DVDIt and then wrote the CMF with blustreak? Is there any advantage in writing the CMF with blustreak? The masters I created with DVDIt also came out of the replicator without any problems.

cheers,

thomas

[danny]

How was your workflow: You prepared everything in DVDIt and then wrote the CMF with blustreak? Is there any advantage in writing the CMF with blustreak? The masters I created with DVDIt also came out of the replicator without any problems.

hi tom,
the very big advantage is/was, that I could create the BDs with Encore CS4 on Mac OS. You can easily create BDs with it, but the missing point was the BDCMF.

even I don´t like Encore very much but it´s the only possibility to create interesting BDs on mac systems. Encore does work quite well on mac, even it has a few bugs in it, like DVDitHD also, but I feel much more comforable to work on mac os.

blustreak premaster create BDCMF from every BDMV-folder-input, that´s very good - I really like it. - simple interface, easy to use.


danny