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#1 User is offline   mklein 

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 07:15 PM

Roxio LP & Tape assistant
I am unable to input my LPs into my computer and capture them as digital music files.
If I try to input using my Roxio USB 2861 Roxio recognizes my USB under “capture from”, but does not recognize the USB under input, where it only gives me the options of either “wave, Micro or stereo mix”
If I list my sound card under “capture from” Roxio gives me about 6 input options. I am inputting into “line in” In both cases there is no deflection of the audio meter so I am not inputting anything. I have tested my turntable, preamp, receiver, cables, which work OK. My sound card will play regular CDs. My USB 2861 will capture VHS tapes from my VHS tape player. What is more frustrating is that about one month ago I was able to input my LPs into my computer just fine, but I can’t do this now. I have reinstalled just about everything. My set up is:
Roxio Creator2009SE with USB 2861 device
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Sabrent 5.1 sound card, a cheapie, but it works for everything else.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 04:11 AM

QUOTE (mklein @ Nov 18 2009, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Roxio LP & Tape assistant
I am unable to input my LPs into my computer and capture them as digital music files.
If I try to input using my Roxio USB 2861 Roxio recognizes my USB under "capture from", but does not recognize the USB under input, where it only gives me the options of either "wave, Micro or stereo mix"
If I list my sound card under "capture from" Roxio gives me about 6 input options. I am inputting into "line in" In both cases there is no deflection of the audio meter so I am not inputting anything. I have tested my turntable, preamp, receiver, cables, which work OK. My sound card will play regular CDs. My USB 2861 will capture VHS tapes from my VHS tape player. What is more frustrating is that about one month ago I was able to input my LPs into my computer just fine, but I can't do this now. I have reinstalled just about everything. My set up is:
Roxio Creator2009SE with USB 2861 device
Windows XP service pack 3
Roxio SP4
Pentium core duo with 4 gig ram
Sabrent 5.1 sound card, a cheapie, but it works for everything else.

Help!!! angry.gif


Look in the Volume Control settings and make sure you have got the Line In selected.

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Post icon  Posted 19 November 2009 - 10:28 AM

Thank you
My system look slightly different than yours. My driver is the C Media wave device. I went to sound and audio controls. My options are to mute a particular input rather than to select. My line in was muted and I unmuted it. However this has not solved my problem. I am getting the error message-could not open sound device(Modem#1 line record)-. I have received this error message before. Do you have any other suggestions.
I also have another question: The USB 2861 device I received with Creator2009 SE. Is this only for video input or is this also supposed to accept audio only from my turntable-receiver input? still
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 01:03 PM

It will do both since the Creator 2009 SP2 update. You said you have SP4, so it should be good to go.

But if you can't get Line In to work either, something is amiss.

Ogdens is better at this than I am!
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (mklein @ Nov 19 2009, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you
My system look slightly different than yours. My driver is the C Media wave device. I went to sound and audio controls. My options are to mute a particular input rather than to select. My line in was muted and I unmuted it. However this has not solved my problem. I am getting the error message-could not open sound device(Modem#1 line record)-. I have received this error message before. Do you have any other suggestions.
I also have another question: The USB 2861 device I received with Creator2009 SE. Is this only for video input or is this also supposed to accept audio only from my turntable-receiver input? still
Mike


There is a difference between which inputs are made available to the soundcard's output, and which one is made available for recording.
Open up the Windows Volume Control utility. (This is usually available by double-clicking the little yellow icon of a loudspeaker in the system tray. If it's not there, go via Start|Programs|Accessories|Multimedia, or perhaps Start|Progams|Accessories|Entertainment). A screen titled "Volume Control" appears. On this screen you will see a selection of inputs. Each one can be individually switched on or off using its "mute" checkbox. All those which are not muted are available for playback through the soundcard's output, and their relative volumes can be controlled using the appropriate sliders. Thus, this screen behaves like a simple mixer, allowing multiple sources to be gathered together for output.

OK, all this is fine, and allows you to pass the input through to the output, but: it doesn't make the unmuted inputs available for recording to hard disk. To do this, select the "Properties" item from the "Options" menu. A screen titled "Properties" will appear. In the box titled "Adjust volume for", there are radio buttons: select the one for Recording. A list of available inputs appears in the box beneath "Show the following volume controls", and you should ensure that all the various inputs you may wish to record are checked in that list. Now press "OK", and the main screen's title changes to "Recording Control". This screen presents the inputs available for recording, and to activate the one you want, check its associated "Select" checkbox. The recording level can be adjusted using the selected input's volume slider; note that you can adjust this while recording (just like you can with the level control on a tape deck). You may also see a simple level meter (like the LEDs on a cassette deck) next to some inputs on some soundcards; whether they appear depends on the particular facilities provided by the soundcard's driver. However, this meter is uncalibrated and most hard disk recording packages are likely to have better metering. Once you have set the required record level, you can close down the Volume Control utility and the settings will remain unchanged (usually).

As for your "getting the error message-could not open sound device(Modem#1 line record)", get the latest update for your sound card/chipset (whichever you have).

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Post icon  Posted 21 November 2009 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (ogdens @ Nov 19 2009, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a difference between which inputs are made available to the soundcard's output, and which one is made available for recording.
Open up the Windows Volume Control utility. (This is usually available by double-clicking the little yellow icon of a loudspeaker in the system tray. If it's not there, go via Start|Programs|Accessories|Multimedia, or perhaps Start|Progams|Accessories|Entertainment). A screen titled "Volume Control" appears. On this screen you will see a selection of inputs. Each one can be individually switched on or off using its "mute" checkbox. All those which are not muted are available for playback through the soundcard's output, and their relative volumes can be controlled using the appropriate sliders. Thus, this screen behaves like a simple mixer, allowing multiple sources to be gathered together for output.

OK, all this is fine, and allows you to pass the input through to the output, but: it doesn't make the unmuted inputs available for recording to hard disk. To do this, select the "Properties" item from the "Options" menu. A screen titled "Properties" will appear. In the box titled "Adjust volume for", there are radio buttons: select the one for Recording. A list of available inputs appears in the box beneath "Show the following volume controls", and you should ensure that all the various inputs you may wish to record are checked in that list. Now press "OK", and the main screen's title changes to "Recording Control". This screen presents the inputs available for recording, and to activate the one you want, check its associated "Select" checkbox. The recording level can be adjusted using the selected input's volume slider; note that you can adjust this while recording (just like you can with the level control on a tape deck). You may also see a simple level meter (like the LEDs on a cassette deck) next to some inputs on some soundcards; whether they appear depends on the particular facilities provided by the soundcard's driver. However, this meter is uncalibrated and most hard disk recording packages are likely to have better metering. Once you have set the required record level, you can close down the Volume Control utility and the settings will remain unchanged (usually).

As for your "getting the error message-could not open sound device(Modem#1 line record)", get the latest update for your sound card/chipset (whichever you have).


Thank You,
This is certainly the most complete explanation that I have been able to find. I now understand the difference between simply inputting into my computer and the ability to record what I have input to my hard drive. i am definitely inputting into my computer via the -line in- because I can hear this input on my computer headphones. However I am not able to record this input. i have gone to the appropriate menus and selected the appropriate boxes. I have no idea whatsoever what -Modem#1 line record-represents, I do not have a sound card associated with-Modem#1 and I do not have a modem. I do have a newly installed Sabrent sound card which came with a driver on a disk. I believe the driver for this sound card is the C-Media wave device. When I try to update this driver, I am simply told to insert the disk that came with the sound card; this I have already done. When I go to the audio controls-properties-and select the recording button I am given only 3 options: stereo mix, microphone and wave. I am not given the option of line in. I don't understand what stereo mix or wave represent.
Another question: I do have the USB 2861 device, but when I attach this to my USB2 port I am not given the option of inputting through this device. Others have said that this device should also work for audio input, but obviously it does not. Do you have any other suggestions?

Mike
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 04:35 AM

QUOTE (mklein @ Nov 22 2009, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank You,
This is certainly the most complete explanation that I have been able to find. I now understand the difference between simply inputting into my computer and the ability to record what I have input to my hard drive. i am definitely inputting into my computer via the -line in- because I can hear this input on my computer headphones. However I am not able to record this input. i have gone to the appropriate menus and selected the appropriate boxes. I have no idea whatsoever what -Modem#1 line record-represents, I do not have a sound card associated with-Modem#1 and I do not have a modem. I do have a newly installed Sabrent sound card which came with a driver on a disk. I believe the driver for this sound card is the C-Media wave device. When I try to update this driver, I am simply told to insert the disk that came with the sound card; this I have already done. When I go to the audio controls-properties-and select the recording button I am given only 3 options: stereo mix, microphone and wave. I am not given the option of line in. I don't understand what stereo mix or wave represent.
Another question: I do have the USB 2861 device, but when I attach this to my USB2 port I am not given the option of inputting through this device. Others have said that this device should also work for audio input, but obviously it does not. Do you have any other suggestions?

Mike


Please clarify.....in your first post you said it was working and now it stopped.

In post# 6 you mention a NEW sound card......so the obvious question is "was it working before the new sound card".

If the answer is yes, go to the website of the sound card manufacturer and get the latest driver for the version you have.

The Line In should be in the drop down menu

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 06:58 AM

If you are hearing what you're inputting then I think Stereo Mix or Wave will work.One of them (Stereo Mix I think) should be basically the same thing as Creative's "What You Hear".
Try using one of those and see if the meters move.
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Post icon  Posted 22 November 2009 - 12:09 PM

QUOTE (tbrewst @ Nov 22 2009, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you are hearing what you're inputting then I think Stereo Mix or Wave will work.One of them (Stereo Mix I think) should be basically the same thing as Creative's "What You Hear".
Try using one of those and see if the meters move.


Around September I was able to digitize my LPs with my old sound card. Sometime in Oct or Nov I was no longer able to do this. I spent many hours testing my phonograph, cables and uninstalling and reinstalling Creator2009 and sp4. This did not work. I then decided the quickest and easiest and perhaps last resort was to buy a new sound card-$20. The week of Nov 15, i bought and installed the Sabrent soundcard. It came in a box with a driver on a disk. I am still unable to digitize my LPs with the new sound card, even though I can input through the line in and hear the input through my head phones. I have performed all the maneuvers suggested by Ogdens and tbrewst and Hardin. I really thank you guys for your time and effort. No I can't record using wave or stereo input-my audio meter does not deflect when I try to input. Well actually the right channel of my meter shows a brief one second rise and then returns to zero. The left channel does not move at all. I know this sounds crazy but under -recording- the option- line in- does not appear. The only options which appear are wave, micro, and stereo mix. Under playback 8 options including line in do appear. As for geting a new driver, my Sabrent card came with a driver. I have installed the driver for windows XP. I'n not sure how to get a lmore recent driver than the one that came with my card last week. i have been to the internet. I can't get the primary Sabrent site. All I get are referrals to commercial sites which want to run a driver robot on my computer and announce that I need several drivers, which they will sell me.
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE (mklein @ Nov 22 2009, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Around September I was able to digitize my LPs with my old sound card. Sometime in Oct or Nov I was no longer able to do this. I spent many hours testing my phonograph, cables and uninstalling and reinstalling Creator2009 and sp4. This did not work. I then decided the quickest and easiest and perhaps last resort was to buy a new sound card-$20. The week of Nov 15, i bought and installed the Sabrent soundcard. It came in a box with a driver on a disk. I am still unable to digitize my LPs with the new sound card, even though I can input through the line in and hear the input through my head phones. I have performed all the maneuvers suggested by Ogdens and tbrewst and Hardin. I really thank you guys for your time and effort. No I can't record using wave or stereo input-my audio meter does not deflect when I try to input. Well actually the right channel of my meter shows a brief one second rise and then returns to zero. The left channel does not move at all. I know this sounds crazy but under -recording- the option- line in- does not appear. The only options which appear are wave, micro, and stereo mix. Under playback 8 options including line in do appear. As for geting a new driver, my Sabrent card came with a driver. I have installed the driver for windows XP. I'n not sure how to get a lmore recent driver than the one that came with my card last week. i have been to the internet. I can't get the primary Sabrent site. All I get are referrals to commercial sites which want to run a driver robot on my computer and announce that I need several drivers, which they will sell me.
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Just type in www.sabrent.com

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Post icon  Posted 22 November 2009 - 04:54 PM

I went to sabrent. I downloaded the file SBT-SP6C.zip, which I assume is my driver. I unzipped it. I chose theXP option as oppossed to the vista folder or a lot of other Windows versions. I do not see the .exe file, which I assume would install this driver on my computer. I compared the driver I got over the internet with the driver that is on my one week old installation disk. they are virtually the same. I see a couple of .exe files on my installation disk, I think I may have installed the mixer.exe file on my computer, but i am now not sure that I have actually installed the driver on my computer. Where on my computer should I look for this driver. My disk did not self install; I had to first select the XP option and then chose one of 2 .exe files but I am not sure that I really installed the driver If it would help, I can send you the screen shots of the menu of my installation disk. I have saved these as MS word documents, which I could send you as email attachments if I had your email. I could also put those screen shots into this forum except I do not know how to attach screen shots to this post sad.gif
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:45 AM

Go to Device Manager,Sound and find your Sound Card.Right click on it and hit Update Driver.When the box asking for a location for the driver comes up point it to the XP folder in the files that you unzipped.It should find the .inf file and install the new drivers.

As far as a mixer that depends on if it came as a utility on the original disc.That original disc should autorun setup when you put in in.
If it doesn't,look at the disc in Explorer and see if there is a setup.exe file.If so run it.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 12:55 PM

If your old sound device was a onboard one, did you disable it (BIOS settings) on your PC's motherboard, it is recommended that you do to prevent any conflicts it MAY cause with the new one you installed.
You could also do a search on your computer for any left over pieces from the old one and delete them.



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Post icon  Posted 25 November 2009 - 12:06 PM

I have solved my problems and am now recording using the -mic- input to digitize my LPs. I am also recording utube successfully form my sound card using Roxio Easy audio capture. I did a combination of updating my drivers, re reading Roxio help many times and fiddleing with the buttons. I think also one of my problems was that I had set my recording level too low. I was recording mostly classical music. I have now set my recording level meter to maximum and am getting meter deflection with no clipping.
Roxio Creator 2009SE is a great program. for The $49 I paid you can't beat it. But using all the features is a real bitch unless you are a digital guru. Roxio help is no help at all. Thank you guys for the time.and effort expended. rolleyes.gif Have a great Thanksgiving-you Canadians feel free to eat lots of turkey again.
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Posted 25 November 2009 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE (mklein @ Nov 25 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have solved my problems and am now recording using the -mic- input to digitize my LPs. I am also recording utube successfully form my sound card using Roxio Easy audio capture. I did a combination of updating my drivers, re reading Roxio help many times and fiddleing with the buttons. I think also one of my problems was that I had set my recording level too low. I was recording mostly classical music. I have now set my recording level meter to maximum and am getting meter deflection with no clipping.
Roxio Creator 2009SE is a great program. for The $49 I paid you can't beat it. But using all the features is a real bitch unless you are a digital guru. Roxio help is no help at all. Thank you guys for the time.and effort expended. rolleyes.gif Have a great Thanksgiving-you Canadians feel free to eat lots of turkey again.
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Glad you got it working.....I should have twigged earlier and had you try the Mic input when you could not get the Line In input working.
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