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#1 dwfilice

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Posted 20 December 2009 - 10:35 PM

Every time I make an audio DVD with Toast 7 Titanium the audio sounds terrible.  It's filled with static.  I tried burning with both Dolby Digital and PCM codec and I get the same result.  I never really used Toast 7 to do this before but now I need to burn audio DVDs.  What am I doing wrong?  Like I said, the discs will play in a DVD player but the audio sounds terrible.  

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#2 tsantee

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 08:12 AM

Are you using Toast 7.1.3? If not, update it. What format are the source audio files? Which version OS X and QuickTime are you running?
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE (tsantee @ Dec 21 2009, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you using Toast 7.1.3? If not, update it. What format are the source audio files? Which version OS X and QuickTime are you running?


I am using OSX 10.4.11.  QT is version 7.6.4 I believe.  It may be a later version, but I'm at work and I can't check, but I do know it's at least 7.6.4.   I will check my version of Toast.  All I remember is that it was Version 7, but I wll update it tonight.  The audio files are AIF and MP3.  I tried making a DVD with only one kind of audio file on it to test if that was the problem, but all formats are the same in that I have bad buzzing and static.  I tried using Toast to burn a CD and it worked fine.  It's the DVD version that doesn't work.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE (dwfilice @ Dec 21 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am using OSX 10.4.11.  QT is version 7.6.4 I believe.  It may be a later version, but I'm at work and I can't check, but I do know it's at least 7.6.4.   I will check my version of Toast.  All I remember is that it was Version 7, but I wll update it tonight.  The audio files are AIF and MP3.  I tried making a DVD with only one kind of audio file on it to test if that was the problem, but all formats are the same in that I have bad buzzing and static.  I tried using Toast to burn a CD and it worked fine.  It's the DVD version that doesn't work.

When Toast makes a music DVD it has to resample the audio to 48 khz. That may be where the noise is being created. If it doesn't work with Toast 7.1.3 try resampling to 48 khz using iTunes (choose Preferences>Import Settings>Custom to access where you can set to 48 khz). Do a test on a few tracks in Toast. You can save as disc image and then mount the disc image file to preview using DVD Player.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (tsantee @ Dec 22 2009, 03:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When Toast makes a music DVD it has to resample the audio to 48 khz. That may be where the noise is being created. If it doesn't work with Toast 7.1.3 try resampling to 48 khz using iTunes (choose Preferences>Import Settings>Custom to access where you can set to 48 khz). Do a test on a few tracks in Toast. You can save as disc image and then mount the disc image file to preview using DVD Player.


Thanks for the feedback.  After updating Toast to 7.1.3 from 7.1.1 and converting a few songs to 48 khz, no luck.  I swear I burned a music DVD last year because I have a few that play just fine in a DVD player.  Now though, no such luck.  I'm not sure what's different, but after burning 15 bad DVDs, I'm going to give up.  Has anyone successfully used Toast to make a music DVD?  Just curious.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 07:59 AM

QUOTE (dwfilice @ Dec 21 2009, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the feedback.  After updating Toast to 7.1.3 from 7.1.1 and converting a few songs to 48 khz, no luck.  I swear I burned a music DVD last year because I have a few that play just fine in a DVD player.  Now though, no such luck.  I'm not sure what's different, but after burning 15 bad DVDs, I'm going to give up.  Has anyone successfully used Toast to make a music DVD?  Just curious.

Yes, but I'm up to Toast 10 now. Did the noise appear when saving as disc image and playing the mounted disc image with DVD Player? Also, when you chose PCM as the format you can play those tracks from the Roxio Converted Items folder with QuickTime Player (Don't quit Toast first or they get deleted unless you changed Toast preferences). I just want to confirm that the noise is unrelated to burning and playing the DVD disc.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE (tsantee @ Dec 22 2009, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, but I'm up to Toast 10 now. Did the noise appear when saving as disc image and playing the mounted disc image with DVD Player? Also, when you chose PCM as the format you can play those tracks from the Roxio Converted Items folder with QuickTime Player (Don't quit Toast first or they get deleted unless you changed Toast preferences). I just want to confirm that the noise is unrelated to burning and playing the DVD disc.


I did save my entire playlist as a Toast disc image, so when I get home tonight I will mount it to play and see what happens.  I will also try using QT to play the converted items too.  I will let you know the result.  Thanks.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:59 PM

OK, I mounted my disk image and played the music using DVD Player, but it still sounds like crap.  I spent some time today reading other people in the Roxio forums who also had issues with their music being distorted, and I would have to say that my issue concurs with what I read:  After installing OSX 10.4.11 and updating Quicktime to 7.6, Roxio could not burn a music DVD.  Unfortunately there is no easy way to install an older version of QT because 7.2 won't install with my current OS version and I don't have the time to reformat my HD to get the previous OS.  I read that the issue is with Apple's QT so I'm sunk until someone figures it out (meaning never).

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE (dwfilice @ Dec 22 2009, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK, I mounted my disk image and played the music using DVD Player, but it still sounds like crap.  I spent some time today reading other people in the Roxio forums who also had issues with their music being distorted, and I would have to say that my issue concurs with what I read:  After installing OSX 10.4.11 and updating Quicktime to 7.6, Roxio could not burn a music DVD.  Unfortunately there is no easy way to install an older version of QT because 7.2 won't install with my current OS version and I don't have the time to reformat my HD to get the previous OS.  I read that the issue is with Apple's QT so I'm sunk until someone figures it out (meaning never).

Sad outcome. If you have a Firewire hard drive you could do an OS X install from the discs that came with your Mac and boot from it. But that's an extreme hassle if you don't have any other reason for wanting a separate bootable drive. It may be that USB hard drives can do that now as well, but I'm not sure of that.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (tsantee @ Dec 23 2009, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sad outcome. If you have a Firewire hard drive you could do an OS X install from the discs that came with your Mac and boot from it. But that's an extreme hassle if you don't have any other reason for wanting a separate bootable drive. It may be that USB hard drives can do that now as well, but I'm not sure of that.



If I purchased Toast 10, will it have the same audio issues with Quicktime 7.6 and up, and will Toast 10 run fine on Tiger?  Burning music DVDs was an important function for me, so purchasing Toast 10 would be worth it if it didn't have the same problem.    Another question:  If all versions of Toast have the audio issues with newer versions of Quicktime, then how can anyone with a new Mac use Toast since all new Macs come with new QT versions?

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 01:07 PM

QUOTE (dwfilice @ Dec 23 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I purchased Toast 10, will it have the same audio issues with Quicktime 7.6 and up, and will Toast 10 run fine on Tiger?  Burning music DVDs was an important function for me, so purchasing Toast 10 would be worth it if it didn't have the same problem.    Another question:  If all versions of Toast have the audio issues with newer versions of Quicktime, then how can anyone with a new Mac use Toast since all new Macs come with new QT versions?

I just checked with my G5 iMac running OS 10.5 and Toast 10.0.2 and my new Intel iMac running OS 10.6 and Toast 10.0.5. Both music DVDs sound fine.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 03:41 PM

A late entry here from a new participant.  For me, Toast 10 has solved the static problem.

I was also getting static in CDs burned with Toast on my Intel iMac in the past few weeks.  But in this case I was running really old Toast software -- version 5.  And I wasn't doing 48 k files.  Just standard 44.1.  I found where Toast stored its Roxio Converted Files and gave them a listen.  They were all full of static.

Now, the recent CD I was trying to burn was my first new music project since upgrading to the Intel iMac from my old G4 eMac and who knows what version of Quicktime.

So based on what I've read in this lengthy thread, the problem seems to have been between Roxio's converter and newer Quicktime.

I just bought and downloaded Toast 10 and burned a fresh copy of my CD.  It sounds fine.  No static -- in the preview window or in the finished CD.  Also, there's nothing new in the old Roxio Converted Files (or Items) folder, so maybe the current version of Toast doesn't do a conversion.  At least it didn't have to convert my AIFF files -- while Toast 5 was doing that this past week.

Your situation may be different.




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