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#1 Evergreen Farm

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 07:36 AM

So I have a Panasonic vdr d220 and i am running the videos through Roxio easy media creator 9.  Here is my HUGE problem.  I am taking videos of horses for sale.  I have set the camcorder to 16:9.  When I run them through "new Production" I set the aspect ratio there to 16:9 as well.  When the production screen opens there are those ugly bars on either side and everything looks squished.  When I play the vdieo on my computer it looks OK, but when I send it to you-tube it goes back to the black bars on either side and the horses look horrendous.   You tube says it loads up to the specifics of the the format of the video.  It all says 16:9 but it isn't I am so frustrated I could throw it all in the trash.  I need some serious help.  

I must alsomention that once or twice I managed to get it right.  Then one other time I found an option, somewhere on EMC9 that allowed me to "fill the screen" cropping top and bottom but fill the screen.  It seemed to look better.  I can't find that either.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 12:46 PM

You were so close!

Two things have to happen before you load any widescreen clip into VW…

First, set to a Widescreen Project:

VW___Widescreen_1.jpg

Second, set the handling for non-16-9 source (File - Production Settings):

VW___Widescreen_2.jpg

Your Panasonic does not record in true 16:9 but is most likely using Letterbox.

Give that a try and let us know.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ Jan 15 2010, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You were so close!

Two things have to happen before you load any widescreen clip into VW…

First, set to a Widescreen Project:

VW___Widescreen_1.jpg

Second, set the handling for non-16-9 source (File - Production Settings):

VW___Widescreen_2.jpg

Your Panasonic does not record in true 16:9 but is most likely using Letterbox.

Give that a try and let us know.



That was the thing I had found once but couldn't find again!  Thanks, the image is still squished though.  The screen is filled by cropping the top and bottom, but side by side the image is still somewhat squished.  Is there anything else I can do to get it back out like it looks on the camera?

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Evergreen Farm @ Jan 15 2010, 07:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I have a Panasonic vdr d220 and i am running the videos through Roxio easy media creator 9.  Here is my HUGE problem.  I am taking videos of horses for sale.  I have set the camcorder to 16:9.  When I run them through "new Production" I set the aspect ratio there to 16:9 as well.  When the production screen opens there are those ugly bars on either side and everything looks squished.  When I play the vdieo on my computer it looks OK, but when I send it to you-tube it goes back to the black bars on either side and the horses look horrendous.   You tube says it loads up to the specifics of the the format of the video.  It all says 16:9 but it isn't I am so frustrated I could throw it all in the trash.  I need some serious help.  

I must alsomention that once or twice I managed to get it right.  Then one other time I found an option, somewhere on EMC9 that allowed me to "fill the screen" cropping top and bottom but fill the screen.  It seemed to look better.  I can't find that either.


Maybe a redundant question, but how did you get the camera's video into your computer to start with---Before you used it in Videowave ?

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE (REDWAGON @ Jan 15 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe a redundant question, but how did you get the camera's video into your computer to start with---Before you used it in Videowave ?

Frank...



I didn't.  
And while I have all of you answering...I don't supposed there is patch software for the EMC9 to work with Windows 7?

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Evergreen Farm @ Jan 15 2010, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't.  
And while I have all of you answering...I don't supposed there is patch software for the EMC9 to work with Windows 7?

NO on Win7!

Reminder: the settings can only be changed BEFORE you add the clip!

If you are in a hurry, you can do it manually... You add a color panel to the Video track then drag your clip onto the Overlay track.

It will have grab handles and you can strech it to fit and get into the correct ratio.
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ Jan 15 2010, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NO on Win7!

Reminder: the settings can only be changed BEFORE you add the clip!

If you are in a hurry, you can do it manually... You add a color panel to the Video track then drag your clip onto the Overlay track.

It will have grab handles and you can strech it to fit and get into the correct ratio.



The color panel was ingenious!  I was able to stretch the supposed 16:9 to the actual ratio so my horses don't look like umpapa's.  Now to see if they will upload to youtube like that!?

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (Evergreen Farm @ Jan 15 2010, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The color panel was ingenious!  I was able to stretch the supposed 16:9 to the actual ratio so my horses don't look like umpapa's.  Now to see if they will upload to youtube like that!?


Yeah, you are a genius!  It worked.  it is a pain in the behind but it worked!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!  Now the Windows 7 problem....

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE (Evergreen Farm @ Jan 15 2010, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now the Windows 7 problem....

I'm afraid that one is only solved by the application of many $$$s. sad.gif

Creator 2010 is the only Roxio suite which is compatible with Windows 7.

There are a number of little cut-down suitelets which have been modified for Windows 7 and re-released, but IOHO they are not worth the plastic they are written on since they're so deliberately limited in what they can do.


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Posted 16 January 2010 - 02:52 AM

QUOTE (Brendon @ Jan 16 2010, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm afraid that one is only solved by the application of many $$$s. sad.gif

Creator 2010 is the only Roxio suite which is compatible with Windows 7.

There are a number of little cut-down suitelets which have been modified for Windows 7 and re-released, but IOHO they are not worth the plastic they are written on since they're so deliberately limited in what they can do.


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Agreed!

Although there are some 'bargains' out there with a minimum of compromise…

The Current Roxio VHS to DVD package for Win7 ($60) is an excellent bargain and with the capture device, will allow you to connect any source with Analog output to your PC to capture from! Your camcorder???

Similarly there is a Creator 2010 SE version from Sam's Club/WalMart or Costco that are good bargains and contain the regular 2010 plus the capture device.

But beyond that, Brendon is right, the repackaged versions are not worth a passing glance. sad.gif
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ Jan 16 2010, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed!

Although there are some 'bargains' out there with a minimum of compromise…

The Current Roxio VHS to DVD package for Win7 ($60) is an excellent bargain and with the capture device, will allow you to connect any source with Analog output to your PC to capture from! Your camcorder???

Similarly there is a Creator 2010 SE version from Sam's Club/WalMart or Costco that are good bargains and contain the regular 2010 plus the capture device.

But beyond that, Brendon is right, the repackaged versions are not worth a passing glance. sad.gif



Seeing as it has taken me almost 2 years to fully grasp EMC9 (I really havent done too many videos until now) what is comparable in the "new software" arena?  The one I have now I got from Costco  and I see there are several on E-bay what is the best and what is what I don't want exactly.  I really have no designs on becoming a cinematographer I just need to shoot video, trim, have the right aspect ratio :-) and upload to the internet or burn to a disk for mailing.  Suggestions?

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 05:42 AM

Did you read the suggestions above?  The only other options for other than Creator 2010 or one of the other version is to not use W7 or set up a dual boot computer.

Are you asking for a recommendation of a competitor's product when Roxio is paying the bill on this one?   ohmy.gif  

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