[jjwhitney]

Here is another inexcusable bug in Toast.

Author a normal DVD using the Data tab > DVD-ROM (UDF) setting.

A "normal" DVD (with only VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders) comes out just fine.

Author a DVD with extra content, like web content, autorun scripts, etc. and Toast inserts the stupid "Desktop DB" and "Desktop DF" files!!!!! WHY??????

This is so embarrassing, I hate to author anything other than a "straight" DVD with Toast as I have to explain what these unneeded and unwanted "Desktop DB" and "Desktop DF" files are!!

Please tell me there's a workaround to this as this is just unacceptable and crappy behavior on the part of Toast. I can't believe that they'd even let this product out of the door for the shame that they should be experiencing.

If anyone knows of alternative products who do this better, I would really like to know what they are. I have relied on the Toast line for so long, like, ever since the beginning, that I never even considered that there would even be another disc authoring/burning solution. I can't accept this "Desktop DB" and "Desktop DF" files crap - I need to author real DVDs without those files in them!!!

[tsantee]

Odd. I just checked and it isn't happening with me. If you drag in a folder that has those files then Toast of course will include them. If that's the issue then choose New Folder in Toast and drag in the contents from a folder. That way the those files shouldn't be created.

Please remember that you aren't complaining to Roxio when you post in this forum. You're interacting to other users like myself. A little more courtesy will be appreciated.

[jjwhitney]

Odd. I just checked and it isn't happening with me. If you drag in a folder that has those files then Toast of course will include them. If that's the issue then choose New Folder in Toast and drag in the contents from a folder. That way the those files shouldn't be created.

Please remember that you aren't complaining to Roxio when you post in this forum. You're interacting to other users like myself. A little more courtesy will be appreciated.

Nope, that is not the case at all.

Like I said, I create a normal set of DVD folders. If I add anything beyond VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS, Toast, when it does the lame animation of morphing into the little progress bar window, adds the Desktop DB and Desktop DF files. There is no way for me to intervene at that point. No, those files do NOT exist in the content I am adding to the DVD. This also happens when using content from another set of DVD folders extracted from another DVD. The UDF volume does not require Apple's own proprietary Desktop DB and Desktop DF files, so why does Toast add them? I repeat those files are not in my source material, that is, the folders I have on my hard drive that I am using to create the DVD folders. The only thing that is there, are the pain-in-the-a** .ds files, which I manually delete from the Toast window.

Even if I add something so basic to DVDs as the JACKET_P folder, Toast will, once I hit the "Record" button, in the split second before that really tiresome animation of the morphing Toast window into the progress bar, insert those two files, Desktop DB and Desktop DF.

Unless I missed something along the way, Toast does not provide any other interface or workspace for creating DVDs with extra content than using the Data tab > DVD-ROM (UDF) setting. That is what the Toast manual recommends using for this purpose. I'm a long time user of Toast, since v 3? I think? since the last 90s, when it was Astarte Toast. I have burned many thousands of discs, including around a thousand DVDs, many of which I've authored myself, many that were copies/back-ups. I feel like I know this darned prog pretty well by now. The UDF volume does not require Apples stupid Desktop DB and Desktop DF files, so why is Toast inserting them?

I have tried saving to a variety of image formats, but none of them allow modifications. I really hate this problem, which is why I am complaining so loudly. Why would you take that personally? Don't get your panties in a bunch.

[jjwhitney]

Nope, that is not the case at all.

Like I said, I create a normal set of DVD folders. If I add anything beyond VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS, Toast... blah blah blah

Well, since you solved my other snit of an issue, with the labeling prompt, I tried Toast 10 and it does not inflict the Heartbreak of Unwanted Desktop DB files upon my DVD-ROM (UDF) burns. I posted the original message in the wrong forum, I realized after I'd already pulled the trigger. That issue with the Desktop DB files being auto-tragically inserted by Toast was with Toast 8. Anyway, I'm good now.

And I do thank you very much for your kind, patient and polite help.