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#1 chrisfranceuk

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 04:00 PM

Ive read the how to's and the .pdf manual for Creator 2009/Ultimate however Im having real difficulty knowing what files do what job? Can someone help me with what seems to be the most laborious software ever invented;

Ive created a slideshow and now want to burn it to DVD. Ive opened MyDVD. What do I chose now? The options available are never explained! What does what? My slideshow has images sized to 1280x720, so preferably I want a 720P slideshow put on standard DVD+R media to play in a normal DVD player. I was told this is possible which is why I bought the software. However, in MyDVD there are NO 720P options! Why doesnt MyDVD have the same export options as Videowave!  If we are being told not to use the ExportAs function in Videowave, how else will I be able to create a 720P HD slideshow, and on DVD+R media! ???

Can someone breakdown what file types need to be used where, as well as why shouldnt we ExportAs in Videowave? I can create great looking MPEG2 files at 720P, but youre advising I cant use them!

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Edited by chrisfranceuk, 15 February 2010 - 05:30 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE (chrisfranceuk @ Feb 15 2010, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ive read the how to's and the .pdf manual for Creator 2009/Ultimate however Im having real difficulty knowing what files do what job? Can someone help me with what seems to be the most laborious software ever invented;

Ive created a slideshow and now want to burn it to DVD. Ive opened MyDVD. What do I chose now? The options available are never explained! What does what? My slideshow has images sized to 1280x720, so preferably I want a 720P slideshow put on standard DVD+R media to play in a normal DVD player. I was told this is possible which is why I bought the software. However, in MyDVD there are NO 720P options! Why doesnt MyDVD have the same export options as Videowave!  If we are being told not to use the ExportAs function in Videowave, how else will I be able to create a 720P HD slideshow, and on DVD+R media! ???

Can someone breakdown what file types need to be used where, as well as why shouldnt we ExportAs in Videowave? I can create great looking MPEG2 files at 720P, but youre advising I cant use them!

Thank you


What you were told was wrong.  All videos,  because that is what you will be making,  that will play on a standard DVD player  will be 720 by 480.  No way around that.  That is the industry standard

Anything higher like 720 or 1080 can be burned to a standard DVD but must be played on a Blu-ray player that will play an AVCHD disc or a Blue Ray disc.

In your version, if you clicked on export to MyDVD, what you get is a lite version that did not have all the functionality of the full MyDVD.  The newer version does open the full MyDVD.

As for the image size, all images at a high resolution will be downsized to the 720 by 480 so what you have sized doesn't matter.

If you don't want a slide show but do want higher resolution images, check to see if your DVD player will play a jpeg picture disc.  You can do that no music, no transitions, manual control.

I think I covered everything you asked.

Edited by sknis, 16 February 2010 - 12:16 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (sknis @ Feb 16 2010, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What you were told was wrong.  All videos,  because that is what you will be making,  that will play on a standard DVD player  will be 720 by 480.  No way around that.  That is the industry standard

Anything higher like 720 or 1080 can be burned to a standard DVD but must be played on a Blu-ray player that will play an AVCHD disc or a Blue Ray disc.

In your version, if you clicked on export to MyDVD, what you get is a lite version that did not have all the functionality of the full MyDVD.  The newer version does open the full MyDVD.

As for the image size, all images at a high resolution will be downsized to the 720 by 480 so what you have sized doesn't matter.

If you don't want a slide show but do want higher resolution images, check to see if your DVD player will play a jpeg picture disc.  You can do that no music, no transitions, manual control.

I think I covered everything you asked.


Hi. Thanks. I understand that standard DVDs are the lower resolution. I also understand that I will need a BlueRay player to play the AVCHD disc. What I do not understand though is the process of the export when burning. Do I ExportAs in Videowave and create a video file, like MPEG2 for instance, then burn or, should I just create my slideshow and save, and then go to MyDVD, open the roxio file and then create the DVD burn in there? This is where its very confusing.
MyDVD in 2009 Ultimate has the AVCHD, and BlueRay options, however, theyre 1080, I cannot see a 720P version?

Also I really dont get what you said about image size? Of course it must matter, how else do you get a 720 or 1080 image like for like? If I had a low res image and burnt that in HD, then it will be pixelated surely? LCD and Plasma screens are in pixels, not lines, so therefore my 720 pixel high image will be the same when playing back. I also resize my images to suit the screen output because having 300 images all at 60MB each just cannot load.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (chrisfranceuk @ Feb 16 2010, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi. Thanks. I understand that standard DVDs are the lower resolution. I also understand that I will need a BlueRay player to play the AVCHD disc. What I do not understand though is the process of the export when burning. Do I ExportAs in Videowave and create a video file, like MPEG2 for instance, then burn or, should I just create my slideshow and save, and then go to MyDVD, open the roxio file and then create the DVD burn in there? This is where its very confusing.
MyDVD in 2009 Ultimate has the AVCHD, and BlueRay options, however, theyre 1080, I cannot see a 720P version?

Also I really dont get what you said about image size? Of course it must matter, how else do you get a 720 or 1080 image like for like? If I had a low res image and burnt that in HD, then it will be pixelated surely? LCD and Plasma screens are in pixels, not lines, so therefore my 720 pixel high image will be the same when playing back. I also resize my images to suit the screen output because having 300 images all at 60MB each just cannot load.

If you output the production from Videowave using the AVCHD 720P choice, then you should have a .mp4 file that is 1280 x 720 progressive.

In MyDVD you need to choose the project type of AVCHD on standard DVD (with or without menus).
Add your file.
Go into the Project settings (it's on the File menu) and select the Extra Long Play preset. That one is set for 1280 x 720 Progressive which will  match your file.
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:13 AM

Perhaps I misread the post.  I thought that the OP wanted to put a 720 slide show on a standard DVD and play with a standard definition DVD player.

TV 720 or 1080 are the number of horizontal lines; not pixels.   HDTV can display more pixels because of that.  

I did not mean to suggest that a 90 by 90 pixel image or a 2 by 2 inch image would not show pixelation on a large screen HD TV.  Those images may well look of on an IPod or similar.  What I was suggesting was that the image from your camera did not need to be sized down to work in this program.  Most of the images I use in slide shows are around 5000KB.

Edited by sknis, 17 February 2010 - 04:15 AM.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 05:04 AM

QUOTE (sknis @ Feb 17 2010, 06:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps I misread the post.  I thought that the OP wanted to put a 720 slide show on a standard DVD and play with a standard definition DVD player.

That's the way I read their first post also.

Their reply tho (post #3 ) made it sound like they want to make an AVCHD on standard DVD to play in a Blu Ray player that can play that kind of disc. So that's why I added the info to do that.
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 06:37 AM

QUOTE (sknis @ Feb 16 2010, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you don't want a slide show but do want higher resolution images, check to see if your DVD player will play a jpeg picture disc.  You can do that no music, no transitions, manual control.

I think I covered everything you asked.

But even that disc, displayed with a standard def. DVD player, will still only display your image as 720 x 480, even on a higher definition TV, yes?
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE (d_deweywright @ Feb 17 2010, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But even that disc, displayed with a standard def. DVD player, will still only display your image as 720 x 480, even on a higher definition TV, yes?

No, it would be a higher resolution because essentially it would be a special type of data disc.  The DVD player would be the controlling factor - will it play a jpeg picture disc is number one.  These are similar to the Kodak picture discs that would have a resolution up to about 1536 x 1024.   I think it has to be burned in ISO 9660 (?)  My older DVD player could play those but they are manual control only.
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (sknis @ Feb 17 2010, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, it would be a higher resolution because essentially it would be a special type of data disc.  The DVD player would be the controlling factor - will it play a jpeg picture disc is number one.  These are similar to the Kodak picture discs that would have a resolution up to about 1536 x 1024.   I think it has to be burned in ISO 9660 (?)  My older DVD player could play those but they are manual control only.

But if it's outputting on a composite video signal, that's the same signal that goes to a Standard Def TV, yes?  How do you get a higher definition picture out of that?  I'm not trying to be difficult, I simply don't understand.
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 03:55 AM

QUOTE (d_deweywright @ Feb 17 2010, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But if it's outputting on a composite video signal, that's the same signal that goes to a Standard Def TV, yes?  How do you get a higher definition picture out of that?  I'm not trying to be difficult, I simply don't understand.

Kind of like a "HD VCD"  laugh.gif

Unless the DVD Player has an HDMI port, it cannot produce an output any better than 720 X 480…

Just as BD Player cannot push a HQ picture down the composite lines.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 04:13 AM

QUOTE (Jim_Hardin @ Feb 18 2010, 06:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kind of like a "HD VCD"  laugh.gif

Unless the DVD Player has an HDMI port, it cannot produce an output any better than 720 X 480…

Just as BD Player cannot push a HQ picture down the composite lines.

Thanks Jim, that's what I was thinking too.  Sure, I can put a picture from my 10 MP camera on the disc, and the DVD player may put it onto the TV, but in theory I wouldn't see any difference on my TV between the same picture directly from the camera, or resampled down to 720x480.
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE (d_deweywright @ Feb 18 2010, 07:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Jim, that's what I was thinking too.  Sure, I can put a picture from my 10 MP camera on the disc, and the DVD player may put it onto the TV, but in theory I wouldn't see any difference on my TV between the same picture directly from the camera, or resampled down to 720x480.

I appreciate that chris is struggling to understand video but is refusing to believe what we tell him…  laugh.gif

The only thing that counts is when you burn the disc! Like the drain in your sink, it makes absolutely no difference if you have a sink full of water or you connect it to a Lake! It will still be the same coming out the end of the pipe…

(now the height of the water will change the pressure, effecting the flow rate but there is no 'pressure' setting in video  wink.gif )


So. There is NOTHING you can do before you burn that is going to make it any better… If you choose a DVD Movie, it will be 720 X 576 and nothing can change that!!!


If you make it an AVCHD or BD then you can make it better BUT:

…you must have a BD Player

…you must connect it to a HD TV

…and you must make the connection with an HDMDI cable.

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