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#1 Popadom

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 12:26 PM

Hi

I have tried several times to burn a DVD with MyDVD that will play on my Sony DVD player but have failed.

I have tried using a DVD+RW and a DVD-R. Both will play on my computer but neither will play on my Sony Player.

I know that the media is compatible as I burned DVDs on both types of disk using Adobe Premier and they play perfectly.

I am using Creator 2010 fresh install on Windows 7 - 64-bit.

I would post a disk information screen capture if I could figure out how.

DVD+RW, Open, DVD-Video, Erasable (MYDVD)
   Session 1
      01 Data Track

DVD-R, Closed, DVD-Video (BATMAN BEGINS)
   Session 1
      01 - Data Track

Not sure what else I can try. Any help will be very welcome.




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Posted 08 March 2010 - 12:31 PM

QUOTE (Popadom @ Mar 8 2010, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi

I have tried several times to burn a DVD with MyDVD that will play on my Sony DVD player but have failed.

I have tried using a DVD+RW and a DVD-R. Both will play on my computer but neither will play on my Sony Player.

I know that the media is compatible as I burned DVDs on both types of disk using Adobe Premier and they play perfectly.

I am using Creator 2010 fresh install on Windows 7 - 64-bit.

I would post a disk information screen capture if I could figure out how.

DVD+RW, Open, DVD-Video, Erasable (MYDVD)
   Session 1
      01 Data Track

DVD-R, Closed, DVD-Video (BATMAN BEGINS)
   Session 1
      01 - Data Track

Not sure what else I can try. Any help will be very welcome.



It seems you are trying to burn a copyright, commercial DVD which besides being illegal Roxio will not even do.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 01:50 PM

No, I am not trying to breach any copyright. The content does not originate from a commercial DVD.

I use Windows Midia Centre on my pc and sometimes want to take the content into my living room to watch on a larger screen tv.

Media Centre will usually burn a DVD but in the case where it is too large it will not compress it hence for programmes over one hour I thought roxio would do the trick.

Roxio will happily convert the programme from dvrms.ms to mpeg2 but when I try to burn the DVD is will not play. This is the case with any content irrespective of what is is.

I assure you there is nothing illegal going on here.


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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:02 PM

First, if you're using W7, then the recorded tv show is in a .wtv format.  Are you using Windows to convert to dvr-ms?
Is this a pay or premium channel?  If so, Media Center records those in a protected format that is not able to be used other than on Media Center.  I've even run into a  few shows such as NBC that are marked 'broadcast flagged' and will not copy to another format.
The fact that it plays on your computer when burned is what puzzles me but I've never had that problem and it could still be the fact that it's copy protected and will only play on the computer it's recorded on.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:07 PM

1. What brand of media are you using? (although you have had no trouble with the media using Premier)
2. Have you tested with non-ms recorder format videos?
3. What error does the Sony player exhibit?

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Mar 8 2010, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First, if you're using W7, then the recorded tv show is in a .wtv format.  Are you using Windows to convert to dvr-ms?
Is this a pay or premium channel?  If so, Media Center records those in a protected format that is not able to be used other than on Media Center.  I've even run into a  few shows such as NBC that are marked 'broadcast flagged' and will not copy to another format.
The fact that it plays on your computer when burned is what puzzles me but I've never had that problem and it could still be the fact that it's copy protected and will only play on the computer it's recorded on.


Yes, I use windows to convert from .wtv format. This runs very quickly and only takes a matter of seconds.

I have tried to burn DVDs with shorter recorded programs and that won't work either.

The content is not from any subscription channel, it is UK Freeview.

I can try it with other non WMC content and let you know how it goes.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:27 PM

Are we sure that there is no problem with your Sony?  Any other problems with this device?
I'm in the states so I don't follow Freeview discussions but I have recently read that the BBC would introduce copy protection for content on the Freeview HD platform. However, I don't think that's your problem.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (firenhancer @ Mar 8 2010, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1. What brand of media are you using? (although you have had no trouble with the media using Premier)
2. Have you tested with non-ms recorder format videos?
3. What error does the Sony player exhibit?


The DVD+RW is Phillips which I use regularly to record from the PC using Media Centre and Premire with no problems and the other disks are Red and I have successfully burned (on the SOny, WMC and Premier) and played about 20 of these.

Definitely not a media problem.

I will test non-ms content tomorrow evening when I get some time.

The Sony just says cannot read disk. The error on the panel is C 13:00




QUOTE (Beerman @ Mar 8 2010, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are we sure that there is no problem with your Sony?  Any other problems with this device?
I'm in the states so I don't follow Freeview discussions but I have recently read that the BBC would introduce copy protection for content on the Freeview HD platform. However, I don't think that's your problem.


It's not HD and there is no copy protection. I can burn shorter programs with WTC that play on the sony.

I have absolutely no problems with the Sony .. it works like a dream writing and reading on the same media that I am using with Roxio. Everything works 100% except disks burned with MyDVD.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (Popadom @ Mar 8 2010, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The DVD+RW is Phillips which I use regularly to record from the PC using Media Centre and Premire with no problems and the other disks are Red and I have successfully burned (on the SOny, WMC and Premier) and played about 20 of these.

Definitely not a media problem.

I will test non-ms content tomorrow evening when I get some time.

The Sony just says cannot read disk. The error on the panel is C 13:00






It's not HD and there is no copy protection. I can burn shorter programs with WTC that play on the sony.

I have absolutely no problems with the Sony .. it works like a dream writing and reading on the same media that I am using with Roxio. Everything works 100% except disks burned with MyDVD.



Well the Sony probably isn't going to play this, what you posted above...

DVD+RW, Open, DVD-Video, Erasable (MYDVD)
Session 1
01 Data Track


What does this mean?

"the other disks are Red"

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ Mar 8 2010, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well the Sony probably isn't going to play this, what you posted above...

DVD+RW, Open, DVD-Video, Erasable (MYDVD)
Session 1
01 Data Track


What does this mean?

"the other disks are Red"

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Red is the brand name. There is no other information. They are a brand of Sainsburys in the UK. I have a hundred pack spindle which I am well through with no other problems.

Why wouldn't the Sony play the spec above? I have just looked at the disk information from a disk created on the Sony and it is identical.

DVD+RW, Open, DVD-Video, Erasable (SONY_DVD_REVORDER_VOLUME)
   Session 1
      01 - Data Track

Thanks everyone for your help I appreciate the suggestions. I think my next step is to try some non-WMC content.



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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (Popadom @ Mar 8 2010, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Red is the brand name. There is no other information. They are a brand of Sainsburys in the UK. I have a hundred pack spindle which I am well through with no other problems.

Why wouldn't the Sony play the spec above? I have just looked at the disk information from a disk created on the Sony and it is identical.

DVD+RW, Open, DVD-Video, Erasable (SONY_DVD_REVORDER_VOLUME)
   Session 1
      01 - Data Track

Thanks everyone for your help I appreciate the suggestions. I think my next step is to try some non-WMC content.


I have burned another disk with some video that I shot at a wedding and I have exactly the same result.

Nothing to do with the content coming from Media Centre then.

So at this point burinng with Premier or Media centre is fine. Burning with MyDVD plays on computer but not DVD Player.

Anyone have any further ideas?

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:45 AM

A bit of googling round shows the following dye codes for the Sainsbury discs

DVD-R media code: ISSM R02
DVD+R media code: ISSM 003

General impression is they just might be fine for data, but bottom-feeders as far as video is concerned.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Mar 11 2010, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bit of googling round shows the following dye codes for the Sainsbury discs

DVD-R media code: ISSM R02
DVD+R media code: ISSM 003

General impression is they just might be fine for data, but bottom-feeders as far as video is concerned.


I'm well through a 100 disk spindle and have never had a problem .... HOWEVER my test was using Philips disks.

Even though I use tried and proven media I still cant read anything written by Roxio.


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Posted 11 March 2010 - 02:57 PM

Philips do not make discs (neither do Sainsburys) - they contract out to the lowest bidder
You're far better off using good quality discs (even tho they cost more) such as Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden/JVC

btw - the spelling is disC for optical media and disK for magnetic (what they call magneto-opticals I hate to think wink.gif )
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 06:37 AM

Just to add to all of this, I have two DVD players, one is a Sony combo DVD-R/VHS, the other, a Magnavox, $30 'cheapie' player.  I usually have trouble with the Sony playing discs I write on my computer, while the Magnavox is quite happy to play just about everything.

While you may be able to record to the discs you have using your Sony recorder, and have it play them back, it's entirely possible that the write strategy your computer's DVD writer uses writes discs that your more expensive player can't read.  The classic writer/media/player mismatch.  The easiest thing to change is the type of disc that you're using.  Trust me, just because you can use them one way, doesn't mean they'll work when recorded somewhere else.  Try some Verbatim or Taiyo Yudens.  Even a different "off brand" may work for your set up.  There's no way we (or you) can know exactly what combination will work until you try it.

Hope that helps!
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 06:49 AM

QUOTE (d_deweywright @ Mar 12 2010, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just to add to all of this, I have two DVD players, one is a Sony combo DVD-R/VHS, the other, a Magnavox, $30 'cheapie' player. I usually have trouble with the Sony playing discs I write on my computer, while the Magnavox is quite happy to play just about everything.

While you may be able to record to the discs you have using your Sony recorder, and have it play them back, it's entirely possible that the write strategy your computer's DVD writer uses writes discs that your more expensive player can't read.  The classic writer/media/player mismatch.  The easiest thing to change is the type of disc that you're using.  Trust me, just because you can use them one way, doesn't mean they'll work when recorded somewhere else.  Try some Verbatim or Taiyo Yudens.  Even a different "off brand" may work for your set up.  There's no way we (or you) can know exactly what combination will work until you try it.

Hope that helps!



Hi d_deweywright, could you explain on what type of disc (DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW) your burning to, that the Sony has trouble with?

Question, what is a DVD-R  part of Sony combo DVD-R/VHS? Do you have a model number?

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:21 AM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ Mar 12 2010, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi d_deweywright, could you explain on what type of disc (DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW) your burning to, that the Sony has trouble with?

Question, what is a DVD-R  part of Sony combo DVD-R/VHS? Do you have a model number?

Thanks cd

I don't have the model number since I'm at work, but it's a DVD Recorder and VHS combination unit, with a TV Tuner built-in.  I've actually used the DVD Recorder function very little.  But, the idea is that with either the VHS or DVD-R, you can record in either direction (non protected material, of course) or from the tuner, and playback from both.

I've use Verbatim DVD-R and DVD+R, the +R media has worked better, but not consistently reliably when written from my LiteOn drives.  I haven't used any RW media to try that.

I'll try to remember to grab the model number later.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:51 AM

QUOTE (d_deweywright @ Mar 12 2010, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have the model number since I'm at work, but it's a DVD Recorder and VHS combination unit, with a TV Tuner built-in.  I've actually used the DVD Recorder function very little.  But, the idea is that with either the VHS or DVD-R, you can record in either direction (non protected material, of course) or from the tuner, and playback from both.

I've use Verbatim DVD-R and DVD+R, the +R media has worked better, but not consistently reliably when written from my LiteOn drives.  I haven't used any RW media to try that.

I'll try to remember to grab the model number later.


We don't know what the 'Sony combo DVD-R/VHS' is supposed to play then'?

What ID String are your LiteOn Drives?

Have you checked the disc's with a Disc Quality utility and does the disc have more errors when the Sony won't play them?

Are you or your drives setting DVD+R bitsetting book type to DVD-Rom?

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 08:01 AM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ Mar 12 2010, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We don't know what the 'Sony combo DVD-R/VHS' is supposed to play then'?

What ID String are your LiteOn Drives?

Have you checked the disc's with a Disc Quality utility and does the disc have more errors when the Sony won't play them?

Are you or your drives setting DVD+R bitsetting book type to DVD-Rom?

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The Sony is "supposed" to play DVD-/+R/RW, basically, everything.  It came with some Sony +R discs.  I'm pretty sure I've set the LiteOn drives to set the booktype to DVD-Rom.  And it's not just my discs, but things like the DVD's we've gotten from our girls dance recitals, which are locally produced and written (not pressed) discs.

Again, not being at home, I don't have the ID Strings for my drives here.  Haven't done a "Disc Quality" check on the discs.

But, this isn't my thread and I'm not trying to solve my problem here, I was just posing some possibilities (and anecdotes) for the original poster.
Dave D-W

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