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[kramla]

When building an audio mix of many songs, and putting custom crossfades between them, in preview mode it sounds fine, but when I play it back it has a dropout between songs.  This did not happen when I used basically the same program when it was known as Jam.  I'm on a Mac os X 10.6.2

Any solutions?

[tsantee]

Does this happen when you choose Save as Disc Image and then play the resulting .sd2f file with QuickTime? I believe you're referring to a problem that only exists when playing the project in Toast.

[kramla]

Does this happen when you choose Save as Disc Image and then play the resulting .sd2f file with QuickTime? I believe you're referring to a problem that only exists when playing the project in Toast.

When building a mix of several mp3s in “Audio CD” mode, there is an audio dropout when it switches from one track to the next.  In “Preview Crossfade” mode, the segue between songs is smooth, but when I “play” the mix in Toast there is an audio dropout between songs.  This is prior to actually burning the cd.

[tsantee]

When building a mix of several mp3s in “Audio CD” mode, there is an audio dropout when it switches from one track to the next.  In “Preview Crossfade” mode, the segue between songs is smooth, but when I “play” the mix in Toast there is an audio dropout between songs.  This is prior to actually burning the cd.

Right. That's a bug in the play back mode but it doesn't affect the actual CD or disc image. The preview in the crossfade window is how it will actually sound on the finished disc.

[zzzzzzzzzz]

you are not right, this is a problem with gapless audio started with toast version 8, and Roxiio didnt resolve this till now (and maybe doesnt want..)
you can make audio CD with continious music (I mean continious tracks, without crossfades) and in preview window it sounds good, but in track window you wll hear dropouts between tracks, even if you make image of audio cd (not Copy disc function in menu - its OK), you get small dropuots., or just open sd2f image, was made in Jam, for example, and burn cd by the toast, you get the dropouts again.
I think support have to do the same and see themself before write comments, discussion about this problem was here couple years ago, and nothing changes from that time.
Why theres no problem in Jam 6 and there is a problem in Toast 8-9-10?
P.S. In other part of forum I saw discussion about the same problem , but concernly the Music DVD, witch can not be gapless...may be all troubles hidden here? and Audio CD burns like Music DVD? Now the time to correct the code of Toast.

Edited by zzzzzzzzzz, 14 March 2010 - 01:54 PM.

[LV Hiker]

Is it not possible then to burn a CD in mp3 format without having a second of silence between tracks?  I am trying to create a CD with opera tracks that should be heard seamlessly.

[tsantee]

Is it not possible then to burn a CD in mp3 format without having a second of silence between tracks?  I am trying to create a CD with opera tracks that should be heard seamlessly.

A MP3 disc is a data disc in ISO 9660 format. It is not an audio CD. Toast can burn gapless audio CDs (with or without crossfades) when burning Disc-at-once (DAO). This is playable on any standard audio CD Player. MP3 discs are something else entirely.

[hermie54]

Toast 8 gave a tick between tracks in a gapless autio CD. Now in Toast 10 I get dropouts. As usual nobody believes it nor does anything about it. Don't worry, I've lost faith a long time ago...

[LV Hiker]

A MP3 disc is a data disc in ISO 9660 format. It is not an audio CD. Toast can burn gapless audio CDs (with or without crossfades) when burning Disc-at-once (DAO). This is playable on any standard audio CD Player. MP3 discs are something else entirely.

Oh well, I'll just have to live with the gaps.  Maybe something better than Toast is out there.  I'll keep looking.  At least I won't purchase future updates.

[tsantee]

Toast 8 gave a tick between tracks in a gapless autio CD. Now in Toast 10 I get dropouts. As usual nobody believes it nor does anything about it. Don't worry, I've lost faith a long time ago...

I don't have this experience when I burn gapless audio CDs with Toast 10 or earlier versions. I've even examined the tracks in a waveform and there is no break. I do know the preview mode has an audible break but it doesn't transfer to a .sd2f disc image or to the audio CD. The only reason I can think of that you are experiencing the gaps is your optical drive is burning Track at Once (TAO) instead of DAO. If you play a .sd2f file using QuickTime player there should be no break where two tracks joined when you set the gap to zero seconds. If there is no gap when playing the .sd2f file but there is when playing the burned audio CD then the cause is your disc burner is using TAO.

[zzzzzzzzzz]

You don`t hear your users, its a pity....
I BURN AUDIO CD with DAO OPTION AND GET DROPOUTS (or TICKs as upper commentt) BETWEEN GAPLESS TRACKS, EVEN IN CREATED Sd2F IMAGE OR BURNED CD, AND THIS PROBLEM APPEARS STARTING WITH VERSION 8 AND LATER....
....I used Toast from 1996 and now use another soft thanks to this problem...
try to do like this - make such Audio CD yourself, if you don`t hear anything tnen you do something different

[tsantee]

You don`t hear your users, its a pity....
I BURN AUDIO CD with DAO OPTION AND GET DROPOUTS (or TICKs as upper commentt) BETWEEN GAPLESS TRACKS, EVEN IN CREATED Sd2F IMAGE OR BURNED CD, AND THIS PROBLEM APPEARS STARTING WITH VERSION 8 AND LATER....
....I used Toast from 1996 and now use another soft thanks to this problem...
try to do like this - make such Audio CD yourself, if you don`t hear anything tnen you do something different

And I don't get the dropouts. I don't know why it is different for you.