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#1 mykeyd

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 12:00 PM

Before I started using Creator 2010 to capture video I used a ATI USB 2.0 TV Card(analog TV tuner & capture) setup to capture video from my Hitachi DZ-BX35A (HD) Mini-DVD camera and it would capture at 16:9 aspect ratio. I just started using my new Roxio USB Capture Card with Roxio Creator 2010 to capture video from my camera using the DVD-HQ sitting and it is capturing video at 4:3 aspect ratio. Any suggestions?

#2 ggrussell

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 01:38 PM

Sorry as far as I know, it can only capture 4:3 for analog capture.  You should be able to connect the miniDVD camcorder directly to the PC using USB cable.  Windows should recognize it as an external DVD player or burner.  Depending on the recording mode used, you can just copy the video_ts folder to your hard drive and use that in a Videowave or MyDVD project.

Caveat: some miniDVD camcorder have two recording modes.  One is a DVD VR mode which can be proprietary and difficult to import.  The other should be a standard video DVD mode which any software can read.  Also some miniDVD camcorder do not proper save the 16:9 flag correctly so you 'could' still have an issue.  The only way to know for sure is to try it.

Edited by ggrussell, 26 July 2010 - 01:39 PM.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 03:13 PM

Thanks for the quick reply! I do use the VR mode while recording but I will switch over to VF mode and test again. I will also try miniDVD in DVD-CD player on laptop, copy to harddrive and open in Videowave. I will also try to capture again with Creator in DV-720x480-AVI mode.  I am not sure how to directly connect cam to laptop because the cable that came with the camera has a S-video plug W/a red,white & yellow RCA plugs. What I do not understand is my 4 year old obsolete ATI USB 2.0 TV (analog) card did capture 16:9 and my brand new Roxio USB capture card at 4:3? I will report back after more testing. Thanks Again !

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:30 AM

If you have a mini-DVD camcorder you do not want to capture from it unless you have a Firewire…

Otherwise all 'capture' results is some degradation of the movie quality…

Take the disc out and Import from it to retain quality and format. But like Gary mentioned, you may have to Close or Finalize the disc to make it readable. (don't think that is required of 'plus' discs???)
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:58 PM

From a quick net search, doesn't look like that model has any PC connection which means you have to record in VF mode and finalize the disc.  Then insert the miniDVD into your computer's DVD player/burner.   Windows should be able to read IF it is properly finalized.

For any disc that you have recorded in VR mode, you can try MyDVD.  It might be able to read it.
Insert the miniDVD into the computer's DVD player/burner
Open MyDVD
Choose DVD project
Click on FILE
go down the list and select  'Edit Disc'

Edited by ggrussell, 27 July 2010 - 08:58 PM.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:53 AM

Thanks for all your help !! After spending time online looking for answers I learned alot about VR files, VF files, MPG-1,2,4 files, VOB files & more. I new I was buying an inexpensive camcorder from the beginning but it works fine for my needs. I also learned alot more about ROXIO Creator 2010 (all good!) which offer no help with VR files. I downloaded several free & free to try video converters from Download.Com, none worked on the VR files properly (I advise against this to all) and caused problems when I uninstalled them !! I could copy VR files from mini-disc to my desktop but nothing would open them. My Sony Blue-ray player played the disc just fine.  I then reinstalled my ATI USB 2.0 TV Tuner (analog TV tuner).It worked fine for capturing my VR files at 16:9 aspect. I have since erased all 26 of my mini-disc using ROXIO Creator 2010 and reformatted them in my mini-cam to record in VF mode for better compatibility. Thanks Again !!

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:29 AM

View Postmykeyd, on 01 August 2010 - 08:53 AM, said:

Thanks for all your help !! After spending time online looking for answers I learned alot about VR files, VF files, MPG-1,2,4 files, VOB files & more. I new I was buying an inexpensive camcorder from the beginning but it works fine for my needs. I also learned alot more about ROXIO Creator 2010 (all good!) which offer no help with VR files. I downloaded several free & free to try video converters from Download.Com, none worked on the VR files properly (I advise against this to all) and caused problems when I uninstalled them !! I could copy VR files from mini-disc to my desktop but nothing would open them. My Sony Blue-ray player played the disc just fine.  I then reinstalled my ATI USB 2.0 TV Tuner (analog TV tuner).It worked fine for capturing my VR files at 16:9 aspect. I have since erased all 26 of my mini-disc using ROXIO Creator 2010 and reformatted them in my mini-cam to record in VF mode for better compatibility. Thanks Again !!
As Gary pointed out, MyDVD will indeed load from a VR Disc… Problem is there seem to be so many conflicting formats using the 'VR' name it is impossible to have everyone!

You camcorder must be able to Finalize/Close the discs and your troubles are over… Once you do that, they are no longer VR…

If you check, you should be able to use RW discs and if you are lucky you can use +RW discs in it.

The +RW should eliminate the VR problems but either type of RW is erasable…
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:51 AM

Thanks Again. The mini-disc I use are cd-rw, which the camera does not offer a finalize option when using VR mode but does when using VF mode. That is why I change the format on all my mini-disc to VF mode and am looking forward to trying the options you all discuss in the ROXIO Community. By the way, after Christmas I may invest in a new mini-cam with a hard drive and between now and then I will educate myself on the subject and a new Laptop with more ram & win7. Thanks again for all your help.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:02 AM

View Postmykeyd, on 02 August 2010 - 05:51 AM, said:

Thanks Again. The mini-disc I use are cd-rw, which the camera does not offer a finalize option when using VR mode but does when using VF mode. That is why I change the format on all my mini-disc to VF mode and am looking forward to trying the options you all discuss in the ROXIO Community. By the way, after Christmas I may invest in a new mini-cam with a hard drive and between now and then I will educate myself on the subject and a new Laptop with more ram & win7. Thanks again for all your help.
You need to spend a little more quality time in your Users Manual:

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Looks like a nice little camcorder once you master it ;)
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:54 AM

These manuals can be very disturbing and do cause one to question the writers (manufactures) ability !! As a Plumbing Contractor we have the same problems with the Architects & Engineers who make large sums for providing conflicting blueprints. The original problem I had was using Roxio Capture Device at 4:3 when mini-cam records in 16:9. That problem has been solved by re-installing ATI USB2.0 TV Tuner for capture at 16:9. I have over 47GB. of MPG files that were captured by ATI USB2.0 TV Tuner but I was under the impression that the Roxio Capture Device was state of the art compared to the antiquated ATI USB2.0 TV Tuner. But problem is solved as far as Capture from mini-cam. When I bought the cam 4 yrs. ago I had just experience a total lost home fire and needed something to remove my depression. Camera was purchased on whim and I have never looked back, manual read in hurry in store before buying CD-RW disc. I also have taken over 18,800 still shoots on SD card (transferred to 1Terebit Drive).Enclosed is copy of updated & loosely added page to manual.img111.jpg

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:09 AM

I have no question about the manual… I was suggesting that you use DVD+RW to avoid all of these problems and it is one you can use with your camcorder…

Then you do not need any capture device since you drop the little disc in your PC and Import from the disc…

Going through any capture card results is a degradation of the signal since the files on disc have to be converted into a Signal then that signal has to be converted into digital format and compressed before being stored on your PC…

I do agree with you 110%, that it would have been great if the Roxio Capture USB would work in all formats!!!
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:35 AM

Thanks Jim, No argument here on those facts but I probably will not be spending any money on more disc but will be placing funds toward top of line HD video cam & new Tosiba Qosmio_X505-Q890,then I can get down on my video productions. Are you guys on FACE BOOK ? I have loaded up some short videos on Face Book and would love to share with the ROXIO Gurus. Thanks for your time & effort researching my situation. ROXIO & The Digital Gurus Rule !!

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:12 PM

View Postmykeyd, on 02 August 2010 - 11:35 AM, said:

Thanks Jim, No argument here on those facts but I probably will not be spending any money on more disc but will be placing funds toward top of line HD video cam & new Tosiba Qosmio_X505-Q890,then I can get down on my video productions. Are you guys on FACE BOOK ? I have loaded up some short videos on Face Book and would love to share with the ROXIO Gurus. Thanks for your time & effort researching my situation. ROXIO & The Digital Gurus Rule !!
I am not on FaceBook and very, very rarely ever go there :P  

One trick I used in camcorder shopping was to take along my own SD or MemoryStick cards! Even the little 2 GB cards gave me plenty of room to take some sample Video & Still pics that I could take home and examine as well as try some test burns…

Let us know what you end up with!
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