[andyicke]

Right, seeing as all the old posts are gone here's a new one i hope someone can help me with:

Since installing EMC 8 i can't copy many types of files onto an external (FAT32) harddrive without a "confirm stream loss" box appearing and warning me that "the file has extra information attached that might be lost if i continue copying".
It then tells me that "information that might be lost includes: :Roxio EMC Stream:$DATA"
If i then choose to proceed anyway, the file starts to copy before stopping and causing windows to drop the exernal drive from "my computer"

this is annoyning as i can't back anything up.

anyone help?

This post has been edited by andyicke: 04 January 2006 - 04:19 AM

[jssilva]

andyicke, on Jan 4 2006, 12:18 PM, said:

Right, seeing as all the old posts are gone here's a new one i hope someone can help me with:

Since installing EMC 8 i can't copy many types of files onto an external (FAT32) harddrive without a "confirm stream loss" box appearing and warning me that "the file has extra information attached that might be lost if i continue copying".
It then tells me that "information that might be lost includes: :Roxio EMC Stream:$DATA"
If i then choose to proceed anyway, the file starts to copy before stopping and causing windows to drop the exernal drive from "my computer"

this is annoyning as i can't back anything up.

anyone help?

Not to get into a discussion as to why Roxio uses the Additional Data Stream (ADS), the fact that you cannot copy the files to a FAT32 partition is a Windows problem as FAT partitions do not support ADS. You might try to remove the ADS from the files before trying to copy them. There is a free utility, here, that can help you remove the ADS. You will have to create an account there to download the file.

[patatrox]

andyicke, on Jan 4 2006, 07:18 AM, said:

Right, seeing as all the old posts are gone here's a new one i hope someone can help me with:

Since installing EMC 8 i can't copy many types of files onto an external (FAT32) harddrive without a "confirm stream loss" box appearing and warning me that "the file has extra information attached that might be lost if i continue copying".
It then tells me that "information that might be lost includes: :Roxio EMC Stream:$DATA"
If i then choose to proceed anyway, the file starts to copy before stopping and causing windows to drop the exernal drive from "my computer"

this is annoyning as i can't back anything up.

anyone help?

Confirm Stream Loss - :Roxio EMC Stream:$DATA

The information in this article applies to:
Easy Media Creator 8

Applicable Operating Systems
Windows 2000 Professional
Windows XP Home / Pro / Media Center
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

Issue:
As a part of Easy Media Creator 8, the RoxWatch application stores metadata as part of a file that is located within an alternate data stream. When a file is indexed by RoxWatch so that it is accessible through Media Manager, there is an alternate data stream added. This information is similiar to a virtual sticky note. This virtual sticky note contains a unique identification number which is assigned to media files on your hard drive. Only media files which are indexed by RoxWatch will contain this information.

This feature assists users who move files to new locations on their hard drive by automatically updating their location. VideoWave and MyDVD projects for example contain pointers to images and videos that have been added to a project. If you move a file from one indexed location to another, typically when you attempt to open your saved project that image or video that was added will be missing in the project.

With this tagging however, once the new the file is indexed by RoxWatch your projects will automatically point to the new location of the files.

The unique identifier or tag is only unique to your computer, the same identification tag may exist on another customers computer for a different file. This information is only useful on your computer and as such does not exist and is not transferred anywhere else.

Solution:
These data streams, sometimes called NTFS data streams, can only exist on NTFS hard disk partitions.

If you e-mail a file, the data stream is not included.
When you burn a file to CD/DVD, the data stream is not included.
If you attempt to copy a file which contains a data stream to a non-NTFS drive or USB storage device such as a USB memory key, you may receive you may receive the following error message:

Confirm Stream Loss
The file "filename.avi" has extra information attached to it that might be
lost if you continue copying. The contents of the file will not be
affected. Information that might be lost includes:

:Roxio: EMC Stream:$DATA

Do you want to proceed anyway?

To continue you should choose the "Yes" option and only the extra information that is tagged to this file will be removed as it is copied. This is working as designed, the tagging information can only be stored on NTFS partitions.

If you wish to stop this information from being created, you will need to right click on the RoxWatch or Media Manager Services icon in your system tray and choose "Stop Watching Folders". If you have hidden the system tray icon, you can access these options in the Media Manager application.

Technical information on alternate or multiple data streams is available here:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documen...kc_fil_xurt.asp

[andyicke]

Ok, well thanks for the relpies.
Now i know what ADS files are, but i still can't move them to a FAT disk without that disk dropping out before any file transfer completes. I've stopped roxio from adding any more ADS tags but everything else on my drive can't be moved to a FAT drive.
So i need to remove them all, the 1st reply to my original post gave a link to a way of doing it but i have to admit that flew straight over my head. has anyone else got a simpler way of overcoming this problem?

[jssilva]

Go to the link I provided and at the top of that page you will see "Download Source File". Click on that and save the file (it will be a zip file) to a folder on you computer. Unzip the file and it will create a new folder "CNRService.StreamsFinder". Open that folder and you will see all of the source files for the application and another folder titled "bin". Open the bin folder and and you will see another folder titled Release. Open that folder and you will see the application CNRService.StreamsFinder.exe. Double click on the application and select the folder you want to check. The rest should be easy to figure out. Incidentally, I think you have other problems that are causing Windows to drop the external drive from My Computer.

[andyicke]

Thanks for the advice. i was going about it the right way then but when i double click the exe file it get an "aplication failed to initialise" error . not having much luck!

[jeanrosenfeld]

You could try ADS Spy, free utility from Merijn (a trusted source)

http://www.spywarein.../downloads.html

scroll down the list to ADS Spy

Download the zip file to a suitable folder, unzip it, double click on ADS Spy.exe; let it scan your whole drive (full scan option); check the items that refer to the RoxioADS (Roxio EMC stream) attached to your files, click remove selected streams. They are removed permanently (no undo or recover, so don't delete any others you may find, in particular there are some ADS streams attached to Roxio's own files in its VideoUI\Content\soundFX folder). You may get a message that some are locked and could not be removed (for me the ones that could not be removed were attached to those Roxio files that I had checked by mistake, so that's a safety net).

[andyicke]

Hey, that sounds great, thanks for the help