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[Halogen Sky]

Wow!
     I'm glad this forum exists. I have LOVED this program for years and just last week I successfully installed EMC 10 program update + content. And despite what your about to read, I still dig this software immensely . There has to be an easy solution. Lots of detail info coming up:

    I get V Wave slideshows to premium perfection and burn them with either My DVD or "Express". Until recently, everything has gone off w/o a hitch. Thus the reason for seeking and loading the update. But it didn't cure the erroneous missing portions of panorama shots or missing whole pics that happens during the ENCODE preview which, as we know, is how the end product DVD will look...and HAS LOOKED 12 (twelve) times-(this time).  ( I now watch the entire encode--usually w/o making a disc image--to expedite the process )

    In the past my longest slideshow was about 15 minutes. Most only the length of one or two pop-songs as background. I remember having one unusual dropout on a burn that I didn't supervise. But, on burn #2= A-OK.

    I am now talking about a single problematic VW slideshow containing pics, vids, panoramas created in Photosuite, color frames, all 5 text tracks used many times, mostly simple "disolve" transitions...no video effects in this one. BUT, I've been getting more and more creative w/ my 10Mpixel camera and photo "journalism" and my slide shows have been increasing in size and "popularity" among my friends to the point that they have requested longer and more detailed shows. Me being a recording musician, & an audio-engineering enthusiast, frankly working with a video NLE like this is kind of cutting-my-teeth for similar work I'm doing in different audio editors.

   But this particular Video-Wave slideshow contains exactly 290 frames!!!      
...it shows up in the DVD pre-burn as being right around 3 1/2 gigs--- 3000+Mb... with 20 minutes leftover on the DVD if it were to go to completion.

    All pics are jpegs, so, I decided to switch some of the larger problematic panoramas to "bitmap" thinking maybe that would be easier to hold on to for the encode. Not so. Erratic dropouts continued... sometimes between 7-12 shots butchered... sometimes--only ONE!!!

    I have a 1year-old VISTA HP Pavillion with duo-core 2.3g PCU and topped out w/ 4g's of RAM. I have 1.5 terrabytes over 2 HD's so I allocated 6 gigs to "virtual" RAM if needed... pretty high & half way decent specs huh? 800 MHz buss on the RAM.

    Is the fact that my VW S-show is at or beyond my PC's ability to use 3.2-3.5 of it's 4.0 RAM ... is it buffering this ENTIRE thing into RAM before it encodes the show? That would speak volumes as to why this behavior has increased slightly among my "not quite as long" shows, but now BIGTIME w/ this slideshow encode. I hope you GURU's can help.

    In the meantime, I'm going to (sadly) take off the 5 minutes of hilarious "credits" at the end-- along with it's audio & pics... and see if things don't pick up from there.

Are there settings I'm missing somewhere?

Other specs: This show is just over 37 minutes long. Quite long & large.  The 10Mpixel SINGLE pics used throughout are exactly 3648 X 2736 pixels... I'm using DOZENS of panoramas larger than that and a few approaching 30,000 pixels in width which are panned sometimes---& sometimes still. Many times no probs at all w/ these.

I have a feeling I,m pushing the RAM limit with my 32bit VISTA O.S.

Is there is a utility that would allow multiple "movies" to be played sequentially with hitting "play" only once on a DVD?  If so perhaps I could split this thing into 2 or 3 shows and play 'em that way.

Also, I have no chapters at all dividing this thing up. Would chapters help the cohesion of the encoding process? Or is it putting them in AUTO every 5 min? Never ever checked.

Hope I provided enough info

anything?

Sincerely
Dan @ Halogen Sky Studios ...in the sticks of Oregon

[Halogen Sky]

I see there is a "topic solved" tab...

    But, I'd like to tell everyone that I found out that Video Wave 10 won't grab completely onto a panorama that is much over 10,000+ pixels in width (which is over 4+ screens wide...in full size) WHEN ENCODING TO THE IMAGE FILE BEFORE THE BURN without messing up.

Yes it goes into the slideshow with ease, and 1 or 2 make it passed the encode, but any more than this and hiccups start to occur.I had many dozens of these being used in my full length production.
This is not really a big deal, since I'm the only person I know who cares about shots this big in high-def.

I was able to trim down a few to just over 10,000+ pixels wide and things started to gel really quickly. There's tell-tale sign that a particular pic won't encode well, and that is this: the picture immediately before it will suddenly contain a black box of missing info inside itself just before it leaves the screen in the small preview/encode box DURING the encoding process. This will only help you if you're like me and will take the tedium and will to supervise the relatively slower encode process in full (if you have many over 10K) ... or you could just peek in shortly before a suspected prob area comes into view.

My Photography is still going to remain as dynamic as ever, but I will take into account this higher-end "limitation" and take appropriate measures for the ones to be used in a V-W production.

I don't think anyone planned for pics of this size to ever be viable for anything but posters or murals, but I have to say that there were a few times during the making of this production when the largest and most beautiful of these DID make it onto the final DVD while others randomly contained these errors... again, all of these being quite large panoramas....

So HINT HINT     to any and all of you ROXIO Programmers out there. If you read these forums... If you were to add this ability to include multiple HUGE pics to EMC 10's VideoWave-- in a smaller update   -- It would make this mid-40's aging audio-video editor terribly exited about what is now considered a "LEGACY" product.

FWIW ---In my opinion, this version of Video-Wave (even before the update) runs circles around the latest SONY VEGAS LE or "Lite" or whatever it's called (2010) in the number of sheer tracks of text/ overlays/ video effects.(reading reviews in "Sound On Sound") I'm not in the market for an update to Creator 2011 so I want to thank you, the builders of EMC 10, for allowing me to express myself so well.. so easily.

Sincerely  
____DAN @ Halogen Sky Studios

P.S.
Oh... and by the way
I don't know what I did to make my very first page disappear like it has (for me)but it seems I've inadvertently "edited it" to become this very post. Hopefully there's enough info on this page/comment to enlighten newbie, pro, and programmer alike.

Edited by Halogen Sky, 31 August 2010 - 07:16 PM.

[grandpabruce]

I am not a betting person, but I don't believe that there will be another update to EMC 10.

A 4 screen wide panorama?       But, don't EVER quit dreaming.