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#1 bobman

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 11:17 AM

I just bought my first blu-ray player, LG BD570.  The manual states that it will play DVD+R, DVD-R as well as DVD+RW and DVD-RW.  I have made several homemade DVDs using on those types of DVDs but for some reason my LG won't play them.  I keep getting an error message that the video format is not compatible.  I am using Roxio to burn the dvds.  I'm not even sure where to start to get help, but maybe somebody here can point me in the right direction.  Perhaps I need to burn the dvd in a different way?  I burn them as data discs.  I am a little disappointed with LG's support.  They can't seem to give me an educated guess as to why this is happening.  Any help would be appreciated!
I will add that I am using Roxio 10 Pro, and my computer is running Windows XP.  I use several different brands of blank DVDs.  The DVDs I record are in the standard DVD format (the extensions ifo, bup and vob).

Edited by bobman, 21 August 2010 - 11:24 AM.


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 11:36 AM

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I burn them as data discs.
That normally won't work with most players - DVD or Bluray.  You have to create a VIDEO DVD.  Use MyDVD to create your disc with or without a nice menu.

Edited by ggrussell, 21 August 2010 - 11:38 AM.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:01 PM

View Postggrussell, on 21 August 2010 - 11:36 AM, said:

That normally won't work with most players - DVD or Bluray.  You have to create a VIDEO DVD.  Use MyDVD to create your disc with or without a nice menu.

Thanks.  I'll give that a try.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 01:21 PM

That's not working.  MyDVD won't let me convert the original .avi file so I can't make the DVD.  
What I don't understand is that the DVDs I am making are in the same format as pre-recorded DVDs (extensions ifo, bup and vob).  Why won't my blu-ray player play my homemade DVDs?  This doesn't make sense.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 01:33 PM

What is the source of the original AVI files?  What do you mean by 'MyDVD won't let you convert the original'? Post step by step what you are doing.

A video DVD is burn using a special file system which is different from a data disc.  If you are using MyDVD or Video Copy & Convert to create a video DVD, the disc should play in any Bluray player.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:23 PM

This is what I am attempting:
I have an .avi file that I want to convert to dvd so I can watch it on my blu-ray player.  I normally use winavi to convert the .avi to .vob, which I can then play on my older dvd player.  I am trying to find a way to convert those same .avi files to a format the will play in my blu-ray player.  When I attempted to burn the .avi file using MyDVD, I got this error message:  "the file you are using cannot be edited and is not being added".  How can I used MyDVD to burn this file?

I know I can burn .avi files straight to a blank DVD and play them on my blu-ray but I am trying to see is there is a way to convert the files so I can play the discs on both my old dvd player and my new blu-ray.  
Thanks for your continued help.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:55 PM

Does this file have DRM?  Some files like from Netflix or iTunes can not be burned because of copyright.If the file is DivX or XVid, you may need to install that codec.  Click here

Edited by ggrussell, 21 August 2010 - 02:57 PM.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 03:06 PM

As far as I know, the file does not have DRM, but I don't know what that is, so I'm not sure.  I have the divx codec on my computer and I also downloaded a divx update to my blu-ray, so that's up to date also.  I'm still stumped.

No, there is no DRM on the files.  These are primarily my own files.

Edited by bobman, 21 August 2010 - 03:10 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 03:28 PM

View Postbobman, on 21 August 2010 - 03:06 PM, said:

As far as I know, the file does not have DRM, but I don't know what that is, so I'm not sure.  I have the divx codec on my computer and I also downloaded a divx update to my blu-ray, so that's up to date also.  I'm still stumped.

No, there is no DRM on the files.  These are primarily my own files.

Where did you get this avi file? "My own files" really tells us nothing unless you tell us more.

Did you actually create a standard video DVD which contains the VIdeo_TS folder and which in turns contains a number of ifo, bup and vob files? Does this DVD play anywhere, computer or stand-alone player?

I just reread you first post. You make contradictory/confusing statements there. At one point you say you burned data discs. Then you state "The DVDs I record are in the standard DVD format (the extensions ifo,  bup and vob)".  Those are two complete different types of DVD burns. Which one are you actually doing?

Edited by myguggi, 21 August 2010 - 03:38 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 03:31 PM

Try importing your VOBs from winavi into MyDVD and burning a video compliant DVD from there with MyDVD.

Do you have Creator 10 as you said, or Creator 2010?
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 03:33 PM

To Myguggi:

Where I got the avi file isn't important.  
To answer your second question, the converted file is a standard video DVD which contains the Video_TS folder containing ifo bup and vob files.  It will play on my computer as well as my older stand-alone DVD player.  I am trying to figure out a way to play these files on my new blu-ray player.  Thanks.

Edited by bobman, 21 August 2010 - 03:34 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 03:43 PM

View Postbobman, on 21 August 2010 - 03:33 PM, said:

To Myguggi:

Where I got the avi file isn't important.  
To answer your second question, the converted file is a standard video DVD which contains the Video_TS folder containing ifo bup and vob files.  It will play on my computer as well as my older stand-alone DVD player.  I am trying to figure out a way to play these files on my new blu-ray player.  Thanks.

This is really confusing. In post #4 you say myDVD won't let you convert the avi files but you also state you created a standard DVD from that avi files. That means that myDVD converted those avi files correctly to the required standard DVD format. If that DVD plays correctly on a standard DVD player but won't play on your BlueRay player then the problem is with your BlueRay player.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:11 PM

View Postmyguggi, on 21 August 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

This is really confusing. In post #4 you say myDVD won't let you convert the avi files but you also state you created a standard DVD from that avi files. That means that myDVD converted those avi files correctly to the required standard DVD format. If that DVD plays correctly on a standard DVD player but won't play on your BlueRay player then the problem is with your BlueRay player.

No, I said that MyDVD wouldn't even let me convert the files. I converted the files using Winavi.  I'm am now trying Brendon's idea.

Brendon, I am using MyDVD 9.

Edited by bobman, 21 August 2010 - 04:12 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:11 PM

View Postbobman, on 21 August 2010 - 03:55 PM, said:

No, I said that MyDVD wouldn't even let me convert the files. I converted the files using Winavi.  I'm am now trying Brendon's idea.

Brendon, I am using MyDVD 9.

Your post #1: "I will add that I am using Roxio 10 Pro"  (there is no such program)
Your post #13" " I am using MyDVD 9."


Could you please clarify:
1-what program you are using
2: exactly what steps you are doing.

myDVD works just fine. What files are you trying to import from the DVD and why? If  your stand-alone player plays the DVD then the program worked correctly and the problem is your BlueRay player.

Edited by myguggi, 21 August 2010 - 04:16 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:18 PM

MyDVD is pretty much worthless. It won't let me import the DVD files. This is getting beyond frustrating. There has to be a way to do this.

View Postmyguggi, on 21 August 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

Your post #1: "I will add that I am using Roxio 10 Pro"  (there is no such program)
Your post #13" " I am using MyDVD 9."


Could you please clarify:
1-what program you are using
2: exactly what steps you are doing.

myDVD works just fine. What files are you trying to import from the DVD and why? If  your stand-alone player plays the DVD then the program worked correctly and the problem is your BlueRay player.

Sorry about the name mixup. I am using Roxio Creator 2010 Pro. I am also using (or attempting to use) Roxio MyDVD 9.

View Postmyguggi, on 21 August 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

Your post #1: "I will add that I am using Roxio 10 Pro"  (there is no such program)
Your post #13" " I am using MyDVD 9."


Could you please clarify:
1-what program you are using
2: exactly what steps you are doing.

myDVD works just fine. What files are you trying to import from the DVD and why? If  your stand-alone player plays the DVD then the program worked correctly and the problem is your BlueRay player.

Sorry about the name mixup. I am using Roxio Creator 2010 Pro. I am also using (or attempting to use) Roxio MyDVD 9.

Please see post #6 for an explanation of what I am attempting to do.

Edited by bobman, 21 August 2010 - 04:16 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 06:50 PM

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It won't let me import the DVD files.
When you converted the VOB to AVI, they are no longer DVD files.  That only confuses the issue.  AVI is just a container. The video inside that container can use many different codecs like JMPEG, Quicktime, DivX, etc.

If you still have the original unprotected DVD, then follow Brendon's suggest in post #10.

Edited by ggrussell, 21 August 2010 - 06:56 PM.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 07:06 PM

View Postggrussell, on 21 August 2010 - 06:50 PM, said:

When you converted the VOB to AVI, they are no longer DVD files.  That only confuses the issue.  AVI is just a container. The video inside that container can use many different codecs like JMPEG, Quicktime, DivX, etc.

If you still have the original unprotected DVD, then follow Brendon's suggest in post #10.

I did not convert the VOB to AVI.  I never said I did that.  The only thing I have done is convert AVI to VOB, using Winavi.  I then burned those files to a blank DVD, as a data disc, using Roxio Creator 2010 Pro.  I can view those discs on my old dvd player but not on my new blu-ray player.  
Using Brendon's suggestion, I tried to convert AVI to DVD, using Roxio MyDVD 9, but that program (MyDVD) would not let me convert the files.  I also tried to import the DVD files using Brendon's suggestion in post #10, but MyDVD would not let me do that either.
I am still stuck at square one. Thanks again for your response.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 07:34 PM

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Using Brendon's suggestion, I tried to convert AVI to DVD
Re-read post #10.  That isn't what Brendon posted. All you have to do is use MyDVD  and add the VOBs to a project.  I've done it hundreds of times.  If that doesn't work , I would suggest uninstalling and reinstalling Creator 2010.

Edited by ggrussell, 21 August 2010 - 07:35 PM.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 07:40 PM

View Postbobman, on 21 August 2010 - 07:06 PM, said:

I did not convert the VOB to AVI.  I never said I did that.  The only thing I have done is convert AVI to VOB, using Winavi.  I then burned those files to a blank DVD, as a data disc, using Roxio Creator 2010 Pro.  I can view those discs on my old dvd player but not on my new blu-ray player.  
Using Brendon's suggestion, I tried to convert AVI to DVD, using Roxio MyDVD 9, but that program (MyDVD) would not let me convert the files.  I also tried to import the DVD files using Brendon's suggestion in post #10, but MyDVD would not let me do that either.
I am still stuck at square one. Thanks again for your response.

Could you please, give a step-by-step description of what you are doing?

I asked before but you ignore it, where did the avi files come from?
Did you create a Video_TS folder (containing the ifo, bup and vob files) using WinAvi?
What message do you get when you add the avi files in the myDVD of C2010? "Would not let me convert" is not very informative.
Why are you even using myDVD 9 if you have C2010 Pro?

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 07:42 PM

View Postggrussell, on 21 August 2010 - 07:34 PM, said:

Re-read post #10.  That isn't what Brendon posted. All you have to do is use MyDVD  and add the VOBs to a project.  I've done it hundreds of times.  If that doesn't work , I would suggest uninstalling and reinstalling Creator 2010.

Ok, I will try it again.  When I tried to do it before, it would not start the process of burning the DVD.  It looked like it was starting but nothing happened for about 30 minutes so I gave up.  I had never used MyDVD before so maybe I'm doing something wrong.  I thought I was following what Brendon posted.  I'll give it a try tomorrow and post my results.  Thanks gg.




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