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#1 DTMOC

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 07:52 PM

I'm not sure why this has not been patched yet but Roxio Creator 2010 is finicky and very inaccurate in reporting filename length/path issues.

I have always had problems with this issue but it is particularly troublesome when doing a larger backup that will likely include long paths. Most recently, I tried to create a disc and the 212 (ISO Level 2) limit was reported as exceeded. In this case it was correct so I made changes, verified and then tried again. This time. Roxio reported some strange issues saying that the 106 char limit has been exceeded but it was still set for ISO Level 2 mode with a 212char limit. see attached/below. This is very frustrating when simply needing to burn a disc!

Even this reporting is is not consistent, nor reliable as different files can be reported on subsequent attempts.
Software is patched to latest release. Checking reports no updates available.

Can we get this fixed???
Am I missing something?


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Posted 24 September 2010 - 03:16 AM

Nothing to fix, these are International Standards…

File Name count includes the entire path before it!

Switch to UDF File System and it all goes away ;)  

UDF has limits too, but I have never hit them yet…
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Posted 28 September 2010 - 09:24 PM

Thanks for tip on UDF but - there is something to fix.
Limits are not applied as set. When a 212 char limit is set, over 106 reports an error.

Further to UDF - I see an option in Roxio 2010 (one of three) that says
ISO+Joliet+UDF (106 character file names)

ISO Level s claims 212 character limit.
Is the "UDF" option as above?
It states a 106 character limit so I did not try it...

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:50 AM

Don't forget that a blank space counts as a character as well, as does the \ in the filename
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 10:45 AM

I have tested this on the last 7 versions, it works as it is supposed to.

I wish Wikipedia was available back then… ISO
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:51 PM

Thx. I know spaces count - as do all path characters including root drive etc.

Jim,

How do I switch to UDF file system with Roxio 2010? Roxio reports a 106 char limit with the only option that includes UDF as part of its description (See prior post). This was the main intent of my last posted question.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 02:38 AM

View PostDTMOC, on 29 September 2010 - 06:51 PM, said:

Thx. I know spaces count - as do all path characters including root drive etc.

Jim,

How do I switch to UDF file system with Roxio 2010? Roxio reports a 106 char limit with the only option that includes UDF as part of its description (See prior post). This was the main intent of my last posted question.

Dan
In Burn Data Disc there is only ONE option listed with UDF!

Pick it and use it. Stop trying to outthink this. (see MY prior posts!)
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Posted 30 September 2010 - 05:46 AM

Thank Jim.

I'm not sure if it's me overthinking or you underthinking it!! :)

You did not respond to a direct enquiry stating that the seemingly obvious option also states a limit of 106 characters!! Last time I checked, this would be a backwards step from a 212 limit - which is not the direction I needed to go. These details are given in the drop down list for selection. If you have tested you would know this. A simple response to this direct enquiry would have saved several entries in this thread.

It could NOT have been clearer.

Sep28 Message excerpt...
Further to UDF - I see an option in Roxio 2010 (one of three) that says
ISO+Joliet+UDF (106 character file names)

ISO Level s claims 212 character limit.
Is the "UDF" option as above?
It states a 106 character limit so I did not try it...



However - thanks for your patience and posts, regardless.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 02:15 AM

I fear we're getting the Home App mixed together with Creator Classic.

View PostJim_Hardin, on 30 September 2010 - 02:38 AM, said:

In Burn Data Disc there is only ONE option listed with UDF!

Pick it and use it. Stop trying to outthink this. (see MY prior posts!)

But the one option with UDF mentioned in Burn Data Discis the one shown here, with the 106 character limit, which is not what the OP wants.

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I think to select just UDF the OP will have to forgo 'Burn Data Disc' and go to 'Burn Data Disc Advanced' [Creator Classic], then look at File > Project Settings and experiment in this box.

What sort of Bridge should he select to get unlimited or long filenames, Jim?

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:24 AM

If I still have my Test Set around, I will run it today…

In Burn Data Disc, if you pick the one you highlighted, you get:

ISO and

Joliet and

UDF…

All 3 are present and each retains its' own limits.(the reading OS will pick the one it supports)

UDF was never limited to 106 -  256 actually…

But ISO is whereas Joliet uses 128 then there was a relaxed Joliet that used more.

In Creator Classic, Bridge should not matter anymore… Last mention of it in my notes was EMC 7. Have to try & see.

It would be handy if DTMOC would post a screen cap of Explorer so we can SEE what he is actually dealing with… ;)

Edited by Jim_Hardin, 01 October 2010 - 03:27 AM.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 05:34 AM

I did another test with Jim's reccomended settings and it did not work. I further reduced path length and finally was able to get a burn done with paths no longer than approx 165ish. Data disc is simply a burn of various software organized into folders. Note that burn is done from SOFTWARE as root (as shown at top of list in one screenshot)...

Here are a couple of screenshots...

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 06:08 AM

Perfect!!!

That will give me something to gnaw on :lol:
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:31 AM

Gnaw I did! I am glad you were persistent because I did reproduce the error…

I duplicated your path & names and it initially worked with every test I ran  :glare:

Then I tossed a DVD RW into the mix and suddenly got the failures you were describing!!!

Also tried a BD-RE and it failed! I will document it a little better and report it… As you may have noticed it fails at the "Documentation" folder which exceeds the 106 character limit after the 'a'.

But allow me be blunt! It fails in 2010 and 2011 and I really doubt there will ever be a fix for those versions… (it doesn't crash and very, very few people burn Data these days & there is a simple workaround)

The best workaround is Creator Classic.

Try these setting in CC:

Creator Classic - Settings.jpg

And you should get these results:


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#14 DTMOC

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 08:17 PM

Hey Jim,

Thanks for your response... was away for a bit and am just picking this up now.

Will go through and check as soon as I can. Looks very easy and I would actually prefer to use Creator Classic anyway - just did not access due to Roxio's home menu. Embarrassingly - I actually thought I was being directed to the equivalent of Creator in 2010 version and did not look further!

I miss the simple "applications" menu/links that previous versions used to have.
Oh well - will just have to create a separate shortcut if it works... no big deal.

Appreciate - as before your patience.

(and Brendon - thx for jumping in on thread as well!)

Dan

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 04:35 AM

View PostDTMOC, on 06 October 2010 - 08:17 PM, said:

Hey Jim,

I miss the simple "applications" menu/links that previous versions used to have.
Oh well - will just have to create a separate shortcut if it works... no big deal.

(and Brendon - thx for jumping in on thread as well!)

Dan
So Do We!!! :angry:

Give it a try and let us know ;)
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 07:16 AM

All is well.
Wish everything was this easy!
I will use Creator from Programs menu now on for this!

Don't need to do this too often - but I do need to it is important.

THANKS!!

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 12:36 PM

Good!

I did turn it in but no one from Roxio has acknowledged my post... :(
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 01:23 PM

Surprised? Funny how companies will spend $1,000's on obtaining customer feedback but seemingly ignore free, good end-user requests!!  :blink:

Thanks again for the easy solution.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:08 AM

I know I am a little late on this post, but I am having the same issue. I have Creator DE but I can't find any options to run Creator Classic like I have seen on other systems in the past. Is Easy Creator different from Classic? I can't even find THAT anywhere...but I need to set my UDF options and I only have the three options that the poster above had (ISO+juliet, ISO+juliet+UDF and ISO Level 2)...thanks

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:38 AM

What you have is an OEM version supplied by Dell (I think).
Try contacting them or upgrading to a full version of the product.
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