[REDWAGON]

O.K.--This is what I have done. My son has several Mini-DV tapes that were used in his Sony Camcorder. They were video of an African hunting trip. Since he has no way of capturing the video and making a DVD for them, he asked me to help him. Since his camcorder is a certain model Sony, it has only USB 2.0 ports and NO Firewire (IEEE1394) ports.

I used my camcorder and also used my Dazzle Digital Video Creator 150 to capture his video in small increments. Most are 12 to 15 minutes long and range from 500 to 600 approx. MB. I captured the video as mpeg-2 files. One I captured as an AVI file. It is approx 2.9GB in size.

Now I have both EMC 8 Deluxe and also EMC 7.5 on my computers and when I open up Videowave in either one of the versions to edit the video, the mpeg files play fine as far as the video goes but no audio. And I can edit the video by using the "splitting" option. BTW, when I drag the mpeg files into the Timeline view in Videowave, the video only will drop into the top line. The problem is, after I get through editing the video file, and save it as a DMSM file everything is O.K., but again there is NO audio.

How can I place the files in Videowave (I've been using EMC 7.5 rather that 8 as I am not that familiar with 8) so there is audio. What do I have to do before hand to the files so the audio comes along with the video (mpeg file) into Videowave ???

Thanks a heap for your suggestions. I have read several other posts similar to my problem but I can't find any that explain the missing audio part.

Frank...

[ml]

Are you certain that the audio is being imported through the Dazzle device?

Did the Sony camcorder come with any software that can be used to import the video?

[myguggi]

REDWAGON, on Jul 9 2006, 10:58 PM, said:

O.K.--This is what I have done. My son has several Mini-DV tapes that were used in his Sony Camcorder. They were video of an African hunting trip. Since he has no way of capturing the video and making a DVD for them, he asked me to help him. Since his camcorder is a certain model Sony, it has only USB 2.0 ports and NO Firewire (IEEE1394) ports.

I used my camcorder and also used my Dazzle Digital Video Creator 150 to capture his video in small increments. Most are 12 to 15 minutes long and range from 500 to 600 approx. MB. I captured the video as mpeg-2 files. One I captured as an AVI file. It is approx 2.9GB in size.

Now I have both EMC 8 Deluxe and also EMC 7.5 on my computers and when I open up Videowave in either one of the versions to edit the video, the mpeg files play fine as far as the video goes but no audio. And I can edit the video by using the "splitting" option. BTW, when I drag the mpeg files into the Timeline view in Videowave, the video only will drop into the top line. The problem is, after I get through editing the video file, and save it as a DMSM file everything is O.K., but again there is NO audio.

How can I place the files in Videowave (I've been using EMC 7.5 rather that 8 as I am not that familiar with 8) so there is audio. What do I have to do before hand to the files so the audio comes along with the video (mpeg file) into Videowave ???

Thanks a heap for your suggestions. I have read several other posts similar to my problem but I can't find any that explain the missing audio part.

Frank...

Do you get audio when you play the captured files through Windows Media Player?

This post has been edited by myguggi: 09 July 2006 - 07:48 PM

[REDWAGON]

ml---Yes, I did hear the audio as it was being captured via my Dazzle unit. Both through the camera and my speakers both.---Yes the Sony camera did come with some sort of software, but is was for viewing video from camcorder to your TV.

Walt--WMP plays all of the mpeg files just fine . Video and audio both, no problem.



I would have used a firewire port to do the capture with but the Sony camcorder only has USB ports and my camcorder has a firewire port but the cable is a "A" 6 pin to "B" 4 pin and my notbook only has a 4 pin port. I have since ordered a 4 pin to 4 pin firewire cable so I can capture with my notebook.



EMC 8 deluxe has a menu option to import a "Photo or Video" but 7.5 doesn't have any such option. It only has an option to import a previous file made by EMC. What's with that ?



I know everything would have captured great had I been able to capture via firewire !! But as long as I use my Dazzle DVC 150, it's fine for viewing in WMP, but no way to edit it in EMC and retain the audio, and that's what I am trying to figure out. That's guys for the replies. I'll keep working on the problem and if I don't get it solved, I'll wait for my 4 pin to 4 pin firewire cable and then it will work.

I still need some help on editing the video (mpg or avi) with EMC 7.5 once I get it captured.



Frank....

[sknis]

Audio is attached to that mpg2 or avi file so you can't do anything more. If you get the audio in WMP then it is there. I have a similar problem when I try to add a *.mov file to VideoWave (any version.) but it should not be true for mpg2 or for avi files.

When you put one of the files into VideoWave and go to timeline, click on the icon to edit the audio envelope. Do you see a straight line or a jagged one? Is the volume turned up? Did you capture the audio at a high enough volume? For that matter, when you played it in WMP. did you have to turn up the volume?

REDWAGON, on Jul 10 2006, 12:37 AM, said:

ml---Yes, I did hear the audio as it was being captured via my Dazzle unit. Both through the camera and my speakers both.---Yes the Sony camera did come with some sort of software, but is was for viewing video from camcorder to your TV.
Walt--WMP plays all of the mpeg files just fine . Video and audio both, no problem.I would have used a firewire port to do the capture with but the Sony camcorder only has USB ports and my camcorder has a firewire port but the cable is a "A" 6 pin to "B" 4 pin and my notbook only has a 4 pin port. I have since ordered a 4 pin to 4 pin firewire cable so I can capture with my notebook.EMC 8 deluxe has a menu option to import a "Photo or Video" but 7.5 doesn't have any such option. It only has an option to import a previous file made by EMC. What's with that ?I know everything would have captured great had I been able to capture via firewire !! But as long as I use my Dazzle DVC 150, it's fine for viewing in WMP, but no way to edit it in EMC and retain the audio, and that's what I am trying to figure out. That's guys for the replies. I'll keep working on the problem and if I don't get it solved, I'll wait for my 4 pin to 4 pin firewire cable and then it will work. I still need some help on editing the video (mpg or avi) with EMC 7.5 once I get it captured.



Frank....

[myguggi]

REDWAGON, on Jul 10 2006, 01:37 AM, said:

EMC 8 deluxe has a menu option to import a "Photo or Video" but 7.5 doesn't have any such option. It only has an option to import a previous file made by EMC. What's with that ?


Frank....

Frank, I don't don't understand what you mean by the above. What component of EMC 7.5 are you talking about? Are you talking about capturing a photo or video or are you talking about adding a photo and/or video in Videowave?

[ml]

Well, I'm scratching my head because if it plays in WMP, the audio should be available in VideoWave. Like Walt, I thought that the audio was 'attached'. Now there is a DV AVI type 1 or 2 and one of them does import the audio separately, but that shouldn't be an issue with the mpeg2.

What program did you use to capture the video? If you used Windows, you might have to output those files as DV AVI to get the audio attached to the video to play in EMC.

You should be able to bring in any photos or video through the drop down menu at the top of the Media Collections (Library) in the upper right hand corner of VideoWave. Or you could create a collection in the Media Manager.

[REDWAGON]

What I was referring to Walt was the difference between EMC8 dlx and EMC 7.5. The attachment shows how I add the mpg video to the Timeline view in EMC8, but there is no such option in EMC 7.5. That's why I am asking about how to add the mpg video in 7.5 to gain the same abilities to edit.

I can edit the EMC 8 after I have added it using that option but not in 7.5. I guess I just need a little more schooling as far as 7.5 goes regarding editing a mpg (mpeg-2) video.

"When you put one of the files into VideoWave and go to timeline, click on the icon to edit the audio envelope"

I'm not exactly sure what "icon" you are referring to Steve in the above statement

Steve, I have no problem with the audio volume, so I guess the answer to your volume questions on all counts would be "YES".

It would appear that I am doing better in EMC8 than 7.5 but I really would rather be using 7.5 for doing video editing if I can ever figure out how to do it like I do in ver. 8.

Thanks for the help guys.

Attachment for Walt's question:

[ml]

Now I'm really confused.

Are you saying that the you have the audio when you edit in EMC 8, but don't have the audio when you edit in version 7?

Did you capture the video with version 8?

The add video/photo is different in 7. You have to drag and drop it from the Media Selector.

Once you drag and drop the video onto the storyline in Timeline, you should have one track of video and below that should be an audio track.

This post has been edited by mlpasley: 10 July 2006 - 07:48 AM

[myguggi]

REDWAGON, on Jul 10 2006, 11:22 AM, said:

What I was referring to Walt was the difference between EMC8 dlx and EMC 7.5. The attachment shows how I add the mpg video to the Timeline view in EMC8, but there is no such option in EMC 7.5. That's why I am asking about how to add the mpg video in 7.5 to gain the same abilities to edit.

I can edit the EMC 8 after I have added it using that option but not in 7.5. I guess I just need a little more schooling as far as 7.5 goes regarding editing a mpg (mpeg-2) video.

"When you put one of the files into VideoWave and go to timeline, click on the icon to edit the audio envelope"

I'm not exactly sure what "icon" you are referring to Steve in the above statement

Steve, I have no problem with the audio volume, so I guess the answer to your volume questions on all counts would be "YES".

It would appear that I am doing better in EMC8 than 7.5 but I really would rather be using 7.5 for doing video editing if I can ever figure out how to do it like I do in ver. 8.

Thanks for the help guys.

Attachment for Walt's question:

Frank, as mlpasley posted, adding photos/video in EMC 7.5 is slightly different from EMC 8

Attached image(s)

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This post has been edited by myguggi: 10 July 2006 - 07:56 AM

[Patty]

I like your camera video clip, Walt.

[sknis]

In your attached image, it is the one on the right -- looks sort of like an upside "L"

REDWAGON, on Jul 10 2006, 10:22 AM, said:

What I was referring to Walt was the difference between EMC8 dlx and EMC 7.5. The attachment shows how I add the mpg video to the Timeline view in EMC8, but there is no such option in EMC 7.5. That's why I am asking about how to add the mpg video in 7.5 to gain the same abilities to edit.

I can edit the EMC 8 after I have added it using that option but not in 7.5. I guess I just need a little more schooling as far as 7.5 goes regarding editing a mpg (mpeg-2) video.

"When you put one of the files into VideoWave and go to timeline, click on the icon to edit the audio envelope"

I'm not exactly sure what "icon" you are referring to Steve in the above statement

Steve, I have no problem with the audio volume, so I guess the answer to your volume questions on all counts would be "YES".

It would appear that I am doing better in EMC8 than 7.5 but I really would rather be using 7.5 for doing video editing if I can ever figure out how to do it like I do in ver. 8.

Thanks for the help guys.

Attachment for Walt's question:

[REDWAGON]

Well, I guess I have confused everyone but I'll try and straighten it out.

1--My son took some video with his Sony mini-DV P-200 camcorder.
2--His camera has no Firewire port, so I placed the tapes in my Sharp mini-DV camcorder.
3--Using my Dazzle DVC 150 I captured three of the tapes to a special folder on my hard drive.
4--While capturing the video, the sound ws all O.K. as I heard it in the camera and also on my speakers.
4a--I played the video files in WMP and all of the files played fine (video & audio)
5--I captured all of the tapes as mpeg-2 video.
6--Once captured, I Opened up EMC 7.5 and Videowave and wanted to edit the video.
7--When I dragged the mpeg2 video file into Videowave, the video played fine but I got no audio.
8--Next I opened Videowave in EMC 8 dlx and using the option to "Add Photo or Video" I opened up the video files and again the video was fine but no audio.
9--Then I got a firewire cable and using my Sharp camcorder, I captured the video from the tapes again and, this time via firewire and captured the video again as MPEG-2. Saved each one and now when I use EMC 7.5 or 8 the video and audio BOTH are O.K.

That's it !! What I am really trying to figure out is why the first video files (using Dazzle) looses the audio in Videowave 8 or 7.5 but will work when they are captured with firewire. That shouldn't happen darn it !!!

Sorry to be such a pest about this problem but now I need to know a little more about editing the video in 7.5 rather than 8.

Thanks for all the replies. Much appreciated guys

Frank....

[ml]

So here's a stupid question and one I guess I missed the answer to......

I know you captured the video, but I still don't understand WHICH program you used to capture the video.

If you used Windows Movie Maker or another program, that could be the problem. Not all programs use the same codecs to capture video and not all programs can read the mpeg2 codecs of other programs.

If you use EMC, then that would be a puzzle.

When you captured over the firewire, did you capture using EMC?

[myguggi]

REDWAGON, on Jul 10 2006, 06:26 PM, said:

Well, I guess I have confused everyone but I'll try and straighten it out.

1--My son took some video with his Sony mini-DV P-200 camcorder.
2--His camera has no Firewire port, so I placed the tapes in my Sharp mini-DV camcorder.
3--Using my Dazzle DVC 150 I captured three of the tapes to a special folder on my hard drive.
4--While capturing the video, the sound ws all O.K. as I heard it in the camera and also on my speakers.
4a--I played the video files in WMP and all of the files played fine (video & audio)
5--I captured all of the tapes as mpeg-2 video.
6--Once captured, I Opened up EMC 7.5 and Videowave and wanted to edit the video.
7--When I dragged the mpeg2 video file into Videowave, the video played fine but I got no audio.
8--Next I opened Videowave in EMC 8 dlx and using the option to "Add Photo or Video" I opened up the video files and again the video was fine but no audio.
9--Then I got a firewire cable and using my Sharp camcorder, I captured the video from the tapes again and, this time via firewire and captured the video again as MPEG-2. Saved each one and now when I use EMC 7.5 or 8 the video and audio BOTH are O.K.

That's it !! What I am really trying to figure out is why the first video files (using Dazzle) looses the audio in Videowave 8 or 7.5 but will work when they are captured with firewire. That shouldn't happen darn it !!!

Sorry to be such a pest about this problem but now I need to know a little more about editing the video in 7.5 rather than 8.

Thanks for all the replies. Much appreciated guys

Frank....

As mlpasley suggested, it may simply be codec problem: Dazzle uses a codec that Windows Media Player recognizes but EMC 7.5 or 8 do not. Just put it down to BlackMagic!

[REDWAGON]

First to answer your question ml, I did use EMC8 Capture for all of the video, including the first ones with my Dazzle DVC150 (mpeg2) and also the captures I made using the Firewire cable I now have. (mpeg2).

And Walt I guess after all that, it must certainly be the codecs that Dazzle uses capturing in mpeg2 that has been my problem. For one thing I really didn't realize that if I captured using EMC8, even if it was with the Dazzle unit and mpeg2 format, that the codecs would not be compatible with those that EMC uses in Videowave.

I'll just have to remember that when I want to capture video, to be sure and use my EMC 7.5 or 8 and use a Firewire cable. My Dazzle unit still captures very well but I guess unless I will be using the captured video for WMP, then that would be O.K.

I've come to the end of this problem post, and have everything well in hand now (I hope ), even including a couple of edits of the firewire video in both 7.5 and 8, so I feel I have learned a lot. (For some reason I still prefer 7.5 to 8 as far as capture and editing). Thanks to your questions, observations and help. I hope anyone else reading this post will have gained in their knowledge as well, especially when using other programs for capture, editing etc. of video as apposed to EMC.

Cheers and thanks again.

Frank....

[ml]

REDWAGON, on Jul 10 2006, 10:32 PM, said:

I hope anyone else reading this post will have gained in their knowledge as well
Frank....

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I learned something that I didn't know before. I didn't know there might be a problem with the codecs when using a Dazzle device for capture.

Thanks for sharing your experience and I'm glad you got it to work by capturing with the firewire.

I'll bet that DVD of the African hunting trip will be fabulous.

[REDWAGON]

Actually ml, I'm not into killing beautiful animals just for sport but my son has been an avid hunter since he was just a young lad. He has hunted just about everywhere in the US, Canada, Alaska, Mexico but never in any of the other countries like Africa. You're right too about some of the video footage he took as well as one of his guides that knew how to operate his camcorder. They are fantastic videos. He also took along his digital still camera and shot some awsome photos with it too. Some of the photos of the African guides, and all the African people that worked for the ranch, including inside the ranch house and the trackers and their families were ones that really deserve printing and hanging on the wall, that's for sure.

So far I have managed (with lots of help from all you guys) to capture all of the separate mini-DV tapes he brought back and also transferred all his photos and placed them on my computer and saved everthing on one of my external enclosure drives just so I won't loose anything.

This next Saturday my son his coming back to my place and I will (with his help knowing what to edit out) see if I can't edit the videos for him. He loves the computer technology and what these programs like EMC can do and is fasinated by what comes out of the productions. I made a short slide show of just the photos for him that he could take back to show his friends at work. I even put some awsome African music behind the slides and it turned out fantastic. I can't wait to finish the work and make a DVD of the hunting trip !!

Frank....