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#1 Kkelley

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 04:14 PM

Hi Folks,

I am looking to take .MTS files from my HD JVC Camcorder and merge them into the highest quality single file with simple transitions.  I have figured out how to do this with Video Wave and have a great functional result.  However, I get a much less rich result than when I play a native .MTS file by itself.  I think I have experimented with most of the export settings but still seem to see a loss in quality.  Is this due to the rendering and compression or am I possibly doing someting wrong.

I don't have a need to export these to a removable media at this time.  I will be streaming the video via Sage TV extenders to my TVs.

Thanks!
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 03:12 AM

View PostKkelley, on 16 November 2010 - 04:14 PM, said:

Hi Folks,

I am looking to take .MTS files from my HD JVC Camcorder and merge them into the highest quality single file with simple transitions.  I have figured out how to do this with Video Wave and have a great functional result.  However, I get a much less rich result than when I play a native .MTS file by itself.  I think I have experimented with most of the export settings but still seem to see a loss in quality.  Is this due to the rendering and compression or am I possibly doing someting wrong.

I don't have a need to export these to a removable media at this time.  I will be streaming the video via Sage TV extenders to my TVs.

Thanks!

Just to make sure that I understand.  You are adding several .MTS files to Video Wave and adding simple transitions.  You then have selected output and then export the files to a video file.  You have tried several of the outputs and you don't like the quality.

You should be able to maintain quality by simply outputting the files to AVCHD 1920 by 1080.  Is this one of the ones you tried? Don't use same as original.  I assume that you don't need blu-ray for what you are doing.  

What video player will you be using?   Will the Sage TV be able to transfer HD video?

Remember that encoding to HD will take a lot of time and depends on your computer and video card.  If you get a quick encode, then you are not selecting an HD output.  Do not be surprised it it takes several hours for a 30-40 minute video even with a computer as fast or faster than mine.

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 08:08 AM

Thanks for the response.  Yes I have followed the steps you mention. I have export to AVCHD 1920 by 1080. My PC is the player.  SageTV allows me to stream (cat5 or  wireless) just about any file type at full 1080P to thier HD300 boxes which I have attached to several HD TVs in my house.  I can pull up a menu and play any ripped movie such as BluRay or my home movies.  Therefore, I have no need to rip to a removable disk.

I am getting conversion times that are in alignment with what you suggest.  However, there is a noticable drop in quality when I do this from the orginal .mts file.  Tried the same thing with Windows Live Movie Maker and the much larger WMV file seems to look very similar to the results I am seeing with Roxio.

Does Roxio have a way to simply stich the .mts files together without rendering them into an MP4 or mpeg 2 file?

Thanks again!
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 09:51 AM

FYI, I just downloaded a trial copy of Corel Video Studio Pro X3 and the resulting video looks GREAT...  Do they approach rendering differently?  Should I be able to get the same result from Roxio?  I would sure like to keep using my paid for copy of Roxio...

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 01:58 PM

View PostKkelley, on 17 November 2010 - 09:51 AM, said:

FYI, I just downloaded a trial copy of Corel Video Studio Pro X3 and the resulting video looks GREAT...  Do they approach rendering differently?  Should I be able to get the same result from Roxio?  I would sure like to keep using my paid for copy of Roxio...

Thx!

Sorry I can't tell you about rendering differently.  The AVCHD files I make from my Canon Camcorder (native HD mpg format) are as good as what comes of of the camera.
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Posted 02 December 2010 - 05:35 PM

This message is sapm !    The poster has been warned before !


Personally, I have tried plenty of software to transcode MTS files with kepping its original qulaity. None is satisfied me with the real original video qulaity. But I received a letter that a program called (doesn't matter) is designed to merge and split camcorder video files with quality lossless.
Hope it is real...

Edited by sknis, 03 December 2010 - 06:41 AM.





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