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Posted 15 July 2006 - 10:17 AM

Wondering if anyone else has this problem...

I add an overlay to my project by dragging a quicktime file to the overlay track.

I want the overlay to start in the middle of that file, but there doesnt seem to be a way to set a start time for it, so the only thing I can do is "split" the overlay, and delete the first half.

I save the project.

I close videowave. Start videowave back up... and on loading the project VideoWave freezes up.

The only way I can get back into my project is by renaming the overlay video file on disk so at startup I can "skip" it.

Can anyone help out here? Is there a known bug with using split? Is there a known bug in overlays? Is there another method for setting the start point of an overlay video?

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 10:52 AM

View Postsnarfy, on Jul 15 2006, 02:17 PM, said:

Wondering if anyone else has this problem...

I add an overlay to my project by dragging a quicktime file to the overlay track.

I want the overlay to start in the middle of that file, but there doesnt seem to be a way to set a start time for it, so the only thing I can do is "split" the overlay, and delete the first half.

I save the project.

I close videowave. Start videowave back up... and on loading the project VideoWave freezes up.

The only way I can get back into my project is by renaming the overlay video file on disk so at startup I can "skip" it.

Can anyone help out here? Is there a known bug with using split? Is there a known bug in overlays? Is there another method for setting the start point of an overlay video?

Thanks

Why don't you just drag the start of the overlay to any point on the overlay track? If your overlay movie is longer than the main movie then you can't move it of course.

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 11:16 AM

View Postmyguggi, on Jul 15 2006, 11:52 AM, said:

Why don't you just drag the start of the overlay to any point on the overlay track? If your overlay movie is longer than the main movie then you can't move it of course.



No, that's not what I am trying to do --

I want to use a middle section of the video file I selected to overlay as the overlay. Say, second 3 to second 15.

When you add a movie to the movie track, you can "adjust duration" to set a start and end point.

There is no way to do this to overlays that I can find. It will start the overlay at the start of the overlay file, whether you like it or not... so I assume one has to use a third party program to splice out the parts you want. And "split", a workaround to this, seems to be broken.

Split is also broken in other ways:
- create an overlay, split it. save file, reopen project. delete the first part of the split. it works. delete the second part of the split -- videowave will freeze up and die.
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Posted 15 July 2006 - 12:31 PM

View Postsnarfy, on Jul 15 2006, 03:16 PM, said:

No, that's not what I am trying to do --

I want to use a middle section of the video file I selected to overlay as the overlay. Say, second 3 to second 15.

When you add a movie to the movie track, you can "adjust duration" to set a start and end point.

There is no way to do this to overlays that I can find. It will start the overlay at the start of the overlay file, whether you like it or not... so I assume one has to use a third party program to splice out the parts you want. And "split", a workaround to this, seems to be broken.

Split is also broken in other ways:
- create an overlay, split it. save file, reopen project. delete the first part of the split. it works. delete the second part of the split -- videowave will freeze up and die.

Ok, now I understand. As far as I know there is no way to edit the video once it has been added to the overlay track. You could use Videowave to edit the video you want to use as the overlay and output to another video file and then load the edited file as your overlay.

I don't understand what you mean by "Split is also broken in other ways". I use the split opration all the time without any problems

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 10:29 PM

View Postmyguggi, on Jul 15 2006, 01:31 PM, said:

Ok, now I understand. As far as I know there is no way to edit the video once it has been added to the overlay track. You could use Videowave to edit the video you want to use as the overlay and output to another video file and then load the edited file as your overlay.

I don't understand what you mean by "Split is also broken in other ways". I use the split opration all the time without any problems



It seems that my adding of a video-overlay has entirely hosed my project. Videowave now refuses to load the project. It sits there and hangs indefinitely upon load.

Please advise on what should be done.

View Postsnarfy, on Jul 15 2006, 11:24 PM, said:

It seems that my adding of a video-overlay has entirely hosed my project. Videowave now refuses to load the project. It sits there and hangs indefinitely upon load.

Please advise on what should be done.


Update: I did manage to load my project by deleting the overlay file on disk. It then asked me at startup to find the file. I clicked skip.

So, I immediately deleted the overlay. I then deleted the overlay track, deleted the fx track, deleted the text track.

All that's left in the project is a video track and the music track. Saved as "test 2"

Quit videowave.

Load test 2. Videowave hangs.

It looks like adding an overlay video to my project not only messed up the overlay track, but corrupted my project for good.
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Posted 16 July 2006 - 07:38 AM

View Postsnarfy, on Jul 16 2006, 02:29 AM, said:

It seems that my adding of a video-overlay has entirely hosed my project. Videowave now refuses to load the project. It sits there and hangs indefinitely upon load.

Please advise on what should be done.



Update: I did manage to load my project by deleting the overlay file on disk. It then asked me at startup to find the file. I clicked skip.

So, I immediately deleted the overlay. I then deleted the overlay track, deleted the fx track, deleted the text track.

All that's left in the project is a video track and the music track. Saved as "test 2"

Quit videowave.

Load test 2. Videowave hangs.

It looks like adding an overlay video to my project not only messed up the overlay track, but corrupted my project for good.

What happens if create a New Videowave production, add the video track and audio track and save the project. Does Videowave hange again when you open the just saved project?
What do you exactly mean by "Videowave hangs"? How long do you wait before you decide Videowave hangs? How long in time is that videowave file you are using?

View Postmyguggi, on Jul 16 2006, 11:37 AM, said:

What happens if create a New Videowave production, add the video track and audio track and save the project. Does Videowave hang again when you open the just saved project?
What do you exactly mean by "Videowave hangs"? How long do you wait before you decide Videowave hangs? How long in time is that videowave file you are using?

This post has been edited by myguggi: 16 July 2006 - 07:40 AM


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